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What classic Earth Tactic would revolutionize Startrek?

Posted: 2003-07-16 02:45am
by The Yosemite Bear
Given Naval, land etc, tactics, and commons sense often forgotten by starfleet, what classic bit of Naval or boarding doctorine would revolutionize Startrek?

Posted: 2003-07-16 03:24am
by Typhonis 1
battle station drills emergency procedure drills and training in warfare in general

Posted: 2003-07-16 03:41am
by Isolder74
Using Main Battle Tanks!

The Federation Army needs help.

The use of combined arms tacticts in fleet engagment and a use of loose fleet formations with capital ship standing at long range and firing on enemy ship in concert. Using their lighter ships to harry enemy heavies and preventing the enemy's light ships from doing the same.

Basically remembering the Battle of Jutlands

Posted: 2003-07-16 07:06am
by Xon
"Logical Thinking"

Posted: 2003-07-16 08:57am
by The Silence and I
ggs wrote:"Logical Thinking"
Whoa, take it one step at a time! Just start with "thinking" :D

If I have anything real to add it would be the tactic they have long forgotten--overwhelming force. They need all the other surgestions as well, but this one is also important. If Kirk was threatened, he fired everything he needed to win. If Picard were threatened, well, we know what happens :evil: If a Borg cube enters your space, send everything at it! I mean everything! If the Romulans enter the neutral zone and you know it, send a full battle squadron and scare that ship silly! No quarter, get breathing room. They have to show some spine or their enemies will run over them before they can learn the other important tactics suggested here already.

Posted: 2003-07-16 10:20am
by Xon
The Silence and I wrote:
ggs wrote:"Logical Thinking"
Whoa, take it one step at a time! Just start with "thinking" :D
:D

I thought of adding that, but then I realised it needed some type of qualifier.

Cos a Young Earth Creationist 'thinks' when they are ranting about YEC, it just isnt logical or structured in any meaningful way.

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:19pm
by Master of Ossus
I think that their biggest deficiency is on the ground, since 15 divisions is considered a major force, capable of defeating a large defensive army that has been fairly well dug in.

I think that the best tactic for them to learn would be the idea of fire and movement. If that's too general, then I would say "cover," since we repeatedly see UFP and Klingon warriors race into battle with no regard for it.

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:24pm
by Gil Hamilton
The ability to remember a new tactic or technology more than once or twice before ceasing to exist.

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:30pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Combined Arms

Posted: 2003-07-16 12:46pm
by Gil Hamilton
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Combined Arms
Hey, they had the Argo in Nemesis! Granted it was a 20th century dune buggy and had a gun that could only be fired when running away, but it's sort of a combat vehicle. :D :D :D

Posted: 2003-07-16 03:31pm
by Admiral Johnason
Aircraft carriers and really good fighters. Also, bombers and gunboats are needed.

Posted: 2003-07-16 05:42pm
by Howedar
Redunancy and good engineering for combat vessels.

Posted: 2003-07-16 09:34pm
by Sidious
Seatbelts

Posted: 2003-07-16 10:17pm
by Admiral Johnason
Nonleathal keyboards.

Posted: 2003-07-16 11:27pm
by Enola Straight
Backup warp cores.

Posted: 2003-07-16 11:36pm
by Sarevok
A real military uniform instead of hippies in pajamas.

Posted: 2003-07-17 12:49am
by Darth Wong
There's no single tactical remedy that can fix the problems with Trek combat.

Posted: 2003-07-17 01:23am
by Sarevok
Darth Wong wrote:There's no single tactical remedy that can fix the problems with Trek combat.
I agree. Starfleet has to be rebuilt from scratch to be combat effective.

Posted: 2003-07-17 05:08am
by The Yosemite Bear
Western Military Tradition?

ala ANchient Greece to Modern Europe's Armies?

Posted: 2003-07-17 07:06am
by CJvR
A few very basic things...

Understanding that if they fire at you they are probably the enemy.

It's OK to return fire even if you have a bigger gun.

It's even more OK to return fire if you don't have the bigger gun.

If a heavy blunt object will get the job done there is no need for a Phase pulse polarisation modulated techno gizmo with 5 dimensional subspace compensators.

A torpedo version of the bridge consols.

Bodyarmor for everyone operating a consol in combat.

Posted: 2003-07-17 11:45am
by TrailerParkJawa
A good military shotgun would work wonders when the Klingons board Federation ships with melee weapons.

Old fashion kevlar body armor and helmet would reduce casulties since Starfleet seems to be unable to reduce the exploding console problem.

Seatbelts.

Posted: 2003-07-17 01:34pm
by Ignorant_Boy
A fuse for those consoles.

Posted: 2003-07-17 02:18pm
by TrekWarsie
I'd put surge protectors around all of those consoles. Better to have them blow than the consoles.

Posted: 2003-07-17 02:51pm
by Isolder74
TrekWarsie wrote:I'd put surge protectors around all of those consoles. Better to have them blow than the consoles.
That would require using something OTHER than Plasma Conduits! As these are what are actually cooking off when the infamous consols explode! Basically the power line running the things are the problem!

Posted: 2003-07-17 02:57pm
by Stravo
Isolder74 wrote:
TrekWarsie wrote:I'd put surge protectors around all of those consoles. Better to have them blow than the consoles.
That would require using something OTHER than Plasma Conduits! As these are what are actually cooking off when the infamous consols explode! Basically the power line running the things are the problem!

But...but plasma conduits are so much more advanced and efficient. :wink: