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Nemesis tie-ins with other ST movies.

Posted: 2002-12-14 03:04am
by Uraniun235
Note that this is other Star Trek movies... if you want to push grand theories of a conspiracy to rip off Star Wars, make your own thread.

Here's what I noticed:

ST:TMP - The Enterprise-E is in drydock over Earth being refitted... familiar music plays and it is like ST:TMP, where the E-nil is in drydock over Earth.

ST:TSFS - The toast for Data: "Absent friends"... same as in Kirk's apartment in Star Trek 3.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:12pm
by FaxModem1
Janeway talking about Picard facing the Sona and the Borg.

Please don't burn me for mentioning her.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:14pm
by Alyeska
FaxModem1 wrote:Janeway talking about Picard facing the Sona and the Borg.

Please don't burn me for mentioning her.
Hey now. Janeway was a desk jockey. Best possible solution to keep her out of the captains chair.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:19pm
by AdmiralKanos
Alyeska wrote:Hey now. Janeway was a desk jockey. Best possible solution to keep her out of the captains chair.
Yes, she can do much more damage at the higher levels.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:21pm
by Alyeska
AdmiralKanos wrote:
Alyeska wrote:Hey now. Janeway was a desk jockey. Best possible solution to keep her out of the captains chair.
Yes, she can do much more damage at the higher levels.
Not exactly. You can put someone at a desk job and simply have them relaying orders. There is an old saying that the best way to get rid of a bad captain is to promote them to admiral. Gets them out of the captains chair and into an unimportant position. Janeway is only a 1-star admiral. She has no ranking authority and is so low on the structure she wouldn't even be given command of a task force in time of war.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:23pm
by Master of Ossus
Alyeska wrote:
FaxModem1 wrote:Janeway talking about Picard facing the Sona and the Borg.

Please don't burn me for mentioning her.
Hey now. Janeway was a desk jockey. Best possible solution to keep her out of the captains chair.
Is to place her in charge of the most important negotiations in SF history since Khitomer?

I suppose she could have been ordered to order Picard to go do it, and that she might not have even been in charge of the thing, but I do think that part of the movie a shameless attempt to appease both of the Voyager fans.

Posted: 2002-12-14 08:24pm
by Alyeska
Master of Ossus wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
FaxModem1 wrote:Janeway talking about Picard facing the Sona and the Borg.

Please don't burn me for mentioning her.
Hey now. Janeway was a desk jockey. Best possible solution to keep her out of the captains chair.
Is to place her in charge of the most important negotiations in SF history since Khitomer?

I suppose she could have been ordered to order Picard to go do it, and that she might not have even been in charge of the thing, but I do think that part of the movie a shameless attempt to appease both of the Voyager fans.
Better to have used the Doctor or Seven in the movie instead. Actually Seven would have been the best. She draw's sales for her sex appeal and her character is actually one of the only two good characters from Voyager.

Posted: 2002-12-14 09:34pm
by Anarchist Bunny
I never liked Seven. Infact I really didn't like any of the characters from Voyager. My mom loved the series so I watched it with her to get her off my back. I never really cared if any of the characters died. Ofcourse I know that would never happen, they'd just decide to lose or something wussy like that, but still.

About Starfleet promotions..

Posted: 2002-12-15 04:29am
by Moff Jerjerrod
lol, Master of Ossus, regarding your "both Voyager fans" comment. Perhaps someone can explain to me why Janeway is an admiral (I stopped watching Voyager the split second after the immortal phrase "Can I have an animal guide too, Chakotay?" was uttered) considering all she did was get her crew stranded on the far side of the universe, while Picard is still a captain, despite having saved Earth/ the Federation eleventy billion times over.

Posted: 2002-12-15 05:26am
by Vympel
In Season 1 Picard is offered the position of the head of Starfleet Academy IIRC, a most prestigious position.

I don't know if it's ever been said in an episode, but I thought that Picard had rejected offers for promotion numerous times.

Or maybe his diplomatic mamby-pambiness just doesn't work on the strategic level at which Admirals operate.

A cool tie-in would've been Starfleet sending one of its new Galaxy-class refits to help the E-E. By Galaxy-class refit I mean of course the uber-galaxy we see in All Good Things.

Answer

Posted: 2002-12-15 12:58pm
by KrauserKrauser
There can only be one reason:

Affirmative Action

(Sadly enough I said this during the movie itself and the crowd all had a chuckle. Sad when even my witty comments can amuse the audience more than the movie.)

Re: Answer

Posted: 2002-12-15 01:05pm
by Patrick Degan
KrauserKrauser wrote:There can only be one reason:

Affirmative Action
More like the Old Boy Net. Her daddy was an admiral, remember?

It's always never what you know, but how well you're connected.

Posted: 2002-12-15 01:08pm
by Wicked Pilot
Look on the bright side, at least Janeway didn't strip for us.