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Can't stop laughing(Movie Review Comparsion)
Posted: 2002-12-20 08:40am
by Mr Bean
Checking the Web today and I found Slate running movie reviews by David Edelstein
For the Two Towers
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2075650
As my synopsis implies, The Two Towers starts with a hash of exposition, the characters are sketchy, there's no payoff, and the cross-cutting among the three separate plots kills whatever momentum the filmmakers manage to build.
The film is, by most criteria, an ungainly piece of storytelling.
I'll probably give the same little shrug when I go off to The Return of the King next year—but I'll plunge in just the same. I didn't learn all these damn names to be deprived of a big finale.
Compared to... Star Trek Nemisis
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2075395
Star Trek: Nemesis is a proud addition to the franchise
Logan doesn't just recycle, though: He devises a brilliant, roof-raising feminist-revenge variation on one of Wrath of Khan's biggest moments (as Troi, Marina Sirtis has the best acting moment of her career); and he weaves the philosophical issues through the action instead of confining each to its own sphere. Logan also has, on the whole, a richer group of characters (and a much better group of actors) with which to play.
With its blind, arrogant supervillain and his grisly weapon of mass destruction (it petrifies its targets, then reduces them to ash), Nemesis is eerily in synch with the current landscape of war:
This last line is the best however...
Whenever studios attempt to translate a TV series to the cinema, fans have a lot riding on the outcome: Will their beloved living-room obsession look good on a grander scale? Will a wider audience go for it, or will they be publicly shamed? It's often touch and go with the Star Trek movies, but Nemesis reaffirms the faith. And the universe's physical laws are intact.
...still laughing
Posted: 2002-12-20 09:04am
by Kamakazie Sith
You have seen Nemesis?
Though I agree this guys review of TTT is incredibly stupid. However, I hardly ever agree with critics.
Posted: 2002-12-20 09:19am
by Vympel
Critics are, in general, totally unhelpful. I can judge a movie for myself, I know whether it's going to be crap before I walk in most of the time.
Posted: 2002-12-20 12:22pm
by neoolong
Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
Posted: 2002-12-20 01:18pm
by Kuja
neoolong wrote:Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
Probably both.
Posted: 2002-12-20 03:05pm
by Cpt_Frank
Oh my!
Posted: 2002-12-20 03:09pm
by DocMoriartty
Maybe Darkstar has slipped up and revealed who he is in real life.
Posted: 2002-12-20 06:27pm
by Darksider
he must be stupid i doubt that anyone could be paid enough to rate TTT better than ST nemesis
Posted: 2002-12-20 08:53pm
by Durandal
Hm ... I wonder if the "short exposition" could have anything to do with the fact that the real exposition, oh I dunno, took place in the first film?
Posted: 2002-12-20 09:36pm
by paladin
neoolong wrote:Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
Calling him stupid would be a compliment.
Posted: 2002-12-22 03:05pm
by Bug-Eyed Earl
DocMoriartty wrote:Maybe Darkstar has slipped up and revealed who he is in real life.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Posted: 2002-12-22 04:17pm
by HemlockGrey
-revs up the Ever-Victorious Army, consisting of a pickup truck and three rifles, which has to date conquered Canada, France, and southern Nigeria-
I need a name and phonenumber. Shep? You wanna ride along?
Posted: 2002-12-22 10:26pm
by Admiral Drason
He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
Posted: 2002-12-22 11:17pm
by Kuja
Admiral Drason wrote:He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
Don't insult flies in such a fashion.
Posted: 2002-12-22 11:29pm
by EmperorMing
IG-88E wrote:Admiral Drason wrote:He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
Don't insult flies in such a fashion.
LOL!!!
Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Posted: 2002-12-22 11:54pm
by data_link
Okay, yeah, the plot's predicatable, and the technical accuracy wasn't the best in the world, but that's true of every movie. Despite that, nemesis was well-directed, well acted, and the pace of the movie keeps it interesting throughout (a refreshing break from the technobabble of the series, I might add). The problem is that too many people walk into the movie and start trying to nitpick it. Can't you just enjoy it for what it is?</trek fanboy mode>
Posted: 2002-12-23 12:05am
by Typhonis 1
Anyone notice how Shirzon or Skippy as he is called is dressed like Pinhead from Hellraiser?
Posted: 2002-12-23 11:11am
by Kuja
data_link wrote:</trek fanboy mode>
And here I was, ready to nail you to the freakin wall.
Posted: 2002-12-23 11:30am
by Ghost Rider
Not enough fanboy mode...more like moderate mode.
You have to be rabid in your lust.
Posted: 2002-12-23 02:56pm
by Morning Star
Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
Posted: 2002-12-23 04:55pm
by data_link
Morning Star wrote:Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
About the same, meaning that they all sucked.
Posted: 2002-12-24 04:09am
by EmperorMing
Morning Star wrote:Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
In my opinion, worse. My initial thoughts were "A one hour episode stretched into a 2 hour movie..." And that is exactly what it felt like.
In my opinion movies are supposed to have better dialog, plots, and/or show more "history" than the TV shows.