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Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-03 12:00pm
by Alyeska
It seems that the Sovereign class indeed got some upgrades since we last saw it.

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=41958

Its possible they added 3-6 new torpedo launchers and a half dozen more phaser arrays to the model.

Re: Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-03 12:09pm
by Kuja
Alyeska wrote:Its possible they added 3-6 new torpedo launchers and a half dozen more phaser arrays to the model.
Maybe that explains why they seemed to ru nout of torps so damn fast.

Re: Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-03 12:35pm
by Magashi
Alyeska wrote:It seems that the Sovereign class indeed got some upgrades since we last saw it.

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=41958

Its possible they added 3-6 new torpedo launchers and a half dozen more phaser arrays to the model.
I was too busy gawking at the ridiculousness of the Scimitar. I didn't even see them sneak that non-sense into the situation. the E-E, last I checked, measured in at 650 meters in length, and the Scimitar dwarfed it by at least a hundred meters. They might as well have called it the Star Destroyer class, add to that it has a world devestator tucked snugly into it.

Then again, I guess its only fair.... ST has to give their fans some sort of vague attempt at being able to keep up with the Warsies. 8)

Re: Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-03 12:44pm
by Alyeska
Magashi wrote:
Alyeska wrote:It seems that the Sovereign class indeed got some upgrades since we last saw it.

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=41958

Its possible they added 3-6 new torpedo launchers and a half dozen more phaser arrays to the model.
I was too busy gawking at the ridiculousness of the Scimitar. I didn't even see them sneak that non-sense into the situation. the E-E, last I checked, measured in at 650 meters in length, and the Scimitar dwarfed it by at least a hundred meters. They might as well have called it the Star Destroyer class, add to that it has a world devestator tucked snugly into it.

Then again, I guess its only fair.... ST has to give their fans some sort of vague attempt at being able to keep up with the Warsies. 8)
Just WTF was the entire post about? This has NOTHING to do with Star Wars.

Posted: 2003-01-03 01:38pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Stop smoking crack please.

Posted: 2003-01-03 07:50pm
by Uraniun235

Re: Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-04 04:46pm
by Magashi
Alyeska wrote:
Magashi wrote:
Alyeska wrote:It seems that the Sovereign class indeed got some upgrades since we last saw it.

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=41958

Its possible they added 3-6 new torpedo launchers and a half dozen more phaser arrays to the model.
I was too busy gawking at the ridiculousness of the Scimitar. I didn't even see them sneak that non-sense into the situation. the E-E, last I checked, measured in at 650 meters in length, and the Scimitar dwarfed it by at least a hundred meters. They might as well have called it the Star Destroyer class, add to that it has a world devestator tucked snugly into it.

Then again, I guess its only fair.... ST has to give their fans some sort of vague attempt at being able to keep up with the Warsies. 8)
Just WTF was the entire post about? This has NOTHING to do with Star Wars.

I was making a comment, that you obviously missed, that Trek ships to date have not had this much armament. I found it funny, and made a comment about calling the Scimitar a "Star Destroyer Class" bird of prey, rather than a "REMAN bird of prey"

Next time you reply to one of my messages, see if you can be a bit more constructive than this. Did you find the Scimitar to be anything other than an insane exageration? Firing while shielded and cloaked, trek fighters, world (population) destroyers, and more armaments than ever before? Maybe you can add, I don't know, some sort of useful opinion on the topic.

Posted: 2003-01-04 04:57pm
by Magashi
:shock: okay, by that picture, the E-E is 750 meters long, and almost 270 across ..... thats a bit larger than I had thought it was, thank you for the correction.

The Scimitar is 273 meters long, and 1477 meters wide ... which falls within my estimate of dwarfing the E-E by over a 100 meters. And that puts it at 1.4 Kilometers on its side.

Interesting.

Posted: 2003-01-04 07:40pm
by Ender
Magashi wrote:
:shock: okay, by that picture, the E-E is 750 meters long, and almost 270 across ..... thats a bit larger than I had thought it was, thank you for the correction.

The Scimitar is 273 meters long, and 1477 meters wide ... which falls within my estimate of dwarfing the E-E by over a 100 meters. And that puts it at 1.4 Kilometers on its side.

Interesting.
Um, what?
1 ft = .30480 meters
It works out to
Sovie:
L: 2250 ft or 685.8 meters
W: 800 ft or 246.72 meters

Valdore:
L: 1980 ft or 610.632 meters
W: 2980 ft or 919.032 meters

Scimitar:
L: 2920 ft or 900.528 meters
W: 4430 ft or 1366.212 meters

And I'd like to know why you think that at 273 meters the scimitar is over 100 meters longer then a 750 meter enterprise. You know, since 273 < 750.

Posted: 2003-01-04 10:00pm
by Howedar
I'd just like to gloat at Alyeska that I told him there was a torpedo launcher above the aftmost shuttlebay.

Nyah nyah nyah!

Posted: 2003-01-04 10:35pm
by Alyeska
Howedar wrote:I'd just like to gloat at Alyeska that I told him there was a torpedo launcher above the aftmost shuttlebay.

Nyah nyah nyah!
Only for Nemesis. Wasn't always on the model.

Re: Sovereign class upgrades?

Posted: 2003-01-04 10:38pm
by Alyeska
Magashi wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Magashi wrote: I was too busy gawking at the ridiculousness of the Scimitar. I didn't even see them sneak that non-sense into the situation. the E-E, last I checked, measured in at 650 meters in length, and the Scimitar dwarfed it by at least a hundred meters. They might as well have called it the Star Destroyer class, add to that it has a world devestator tucked snugly into it.

Then again, I guess its only fair.... ST has to give their fans some sort of vague attempt at being able to keep up with the Warsies. 8)
Just WTF was the entire post about? This has NOTHING to do with Star Wars.

I was making a comment, that you obviously missed, that Trek ships to date have not had this much armament. I found it funny, and made a comment about calling the Scimitar a "Star Destroyer Class" bird of prey, rather than a "REMAN bird of prey"

Next time you reply to one of my messages, see if you can be a bit more constructive than this. Did you find the Scimitar to be anything other than an insane exageration? Firing while shielded and cloaked, trek fighters, world (population) destroyers, and more armaments than ever before? Maybe you can add, I don't know, some sort of useful opinion on the topic.
Lets see... Your claiming that the Scimitar was insanely armed. Your not taking into account its size. Your ignoring the fact that its photon torpedo launchers were inferior to the Enterprise. Your forgetting that its disrupters were equal to the Enterprise phasers. All things considered, the Scimitar is UNDER ARMED for its size. You also ignore the likes of the Akira with 15 torpedo launchers. The Nebula with 2 large and 8 small torpedo launchers. The Defiant which is armed to the teeth for a small ship. The Prometheus which has more then 20 phaser arrays. The Galaxy-X with mind boggling numbers of enhancements and weapon systems...

Maybe you can shut the fuck up and leave out the Star Wars mention because it doesn't belong.