Updating designs

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-10-26 12:21pm

By order of the Emperor Anakin Solo .he wishes that a Star Fleet vessel Enterprise class to be built using imperial technology and specs yet retain its outward appearance said ships will be used for classic voyages what will these ships be able to do given Imperisl technology

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-26 12:29pm

By The Emperor(May he live forever!) command it shall be done!
Not to critise the Emperor or anything(May he live forver!) but there is no such thing as the Enterpise Class
Rather the E-D as its know is a Galaxy Class

With that Classifaction out of the way if we can not change its basic shape them I purpose removing the "Warp Core" replacing it with proper Imperal Techology and retaning the current exposed engine design as we must but massivly upgrading the Shield Strength

Where the Phaser Stips lie shall be replace with Anti-Fighter TL and the Current Torp mounts shall be replaced by a ring of Twenty Torp Launchers around the Centeral Well

Fast Reloading systems will be aded and of coures all Missle Shall be Cap-ship Strength, The Rear-mounted launcher will be replaced compelty with a Back-up Reactor and heavly reforced but not readly visable

IE this is an Upgraded Lancer which Relises more on Torps than Light Turbolasers

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-10-26 03:45pm

IIRC the refit Constitution class was also called Enterprise class.
In that case the almighty Emperor (may the force always be with him) would be right.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-10-26 11:23pm

Thats what I`m talking about the Constitution refit Enterprise from the Movies that built using Imperial technology just leave how it looks alone

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-26 11:58pm

Hmm... Take the basic Proton Torpedo (about the size of a basketball) and scale it up to the ST torpedo size. Makes a pretty damned powerful torpedo. Hypermater reactors to power increased shields and improved beam phasers. For all intents and purposes it could look the same, only its a wolf in sheeps clothing.

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2002-10-27 11:07am

Install hypermatter reactors & hyperdrive. Keep the warpdrive system if possible for tactical use.

Upgrade shields to Imperial standard.

Tear out most of the huge lab & habitation sections in the saucer-section and replace them with a second hangar deck for TIE-fighters.

Keep the transporters, even if our troops refuse to use them they can be used for equipment transfer, combat droid can be transported and gas canisters can de transported onboard hostile ships about to be boarded.

Replace most of the Phaser arrays with T-L turrets. Keep some of the arrays if they are effective against fighters, otherwise rip them out!

Replace the Phototorp systems with similar size proton torpedoes.

Tear out the nava-deflector and replace it with the biggest TL you can fit into the space.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-27 11:09am

Since they don't need long nacelles on pylons, they would get rid of them. The same is true for the separate saucer/stardrive section design. They create an extremely weak physical structure for no benefit. So I can't see why they would make the ship look that way with Imperial technology, since its appearance is directly due to the nature of warp drive.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-10-27 11:11am

It's said it's for nostalgic cruises.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2002-10-27 01:15pm

Darth Wong wrote:Since they don't need long nacelles on pylons, they would get rid of them. The same is true for the separate saucer/stardrive section design. They create an extremely weak physical structure for no benefit. So I can't see why they would make the ship look that way with Imperial technology, since its appearance is directly due to the nature of warp drive.

Are we talking about the E-E here or the E-D? It had better damned not be the E-D that the Emperor wants built.

The E-E has much firmer structural support between the saucer and stardrive sections, as well as fairly wide nacelle pylons.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-10-27 01:46pm

This is tht Movie Enterprise and its to keep its outward appearnce for Nostalgia ccruises the new tech and such is to get it up to Imperial safety standards

SpyderGS · Post by **SpyderGS** » 2002-10-27 09:58pm

Strip all hull plating and replace with Imperial standard armor plating. Rip out all phaser banks and install HTLs. Remove the photon torp launchers and update with capital grade missiles. Gut the secondary hull and refit to handle the largest compliment of TIEs. Retrofit HTLs in strategic areas to give a 360x360 field of fire (possibly excluding areas occluded by the warp nacelles---thats what fighter cover and escort ships are for). Strip out the M/AM power system and all the plasma conduits and refit with a safe Imperial power system. Place LTLs and light torp and missile launchers around the primary hull's (saucer) sidewall.
Automated defensive batteries on the nacelles and the nacelle struts.
Upgrade to Imperial MilSpec shielding
Given that the bridge, Unlike Imperial bridges has no viewports, only a viewing screen, relocate the bridge to the center of the primary hull within it's own armored tub. One that can take a few direct hits without being compromised.
Replace the impulse engines with a similarly sized sublight engine of Imperial manufacture. I believe the Correlian YT-1300 has something that might fit with some modifications.

SpyderGS · Post by **SpyderGS** » 2002-10-27 10:07pm

SOD! It just occured to me, R&D should investigate removing the main deflector dish and installing an upsized version of the assault lasers. Or perhaps a downsized version of the DS SuperLaser. It has a good mounting point for it This may scrap the plan to turn the secondary hull into a large hangar bay. Some of this function could be moved to the primary hull, but not too much or it might adversley impact the intended purpose of nostalgia cruises for the Emperor.
**Side note: WRT mounting torp/missile launchers and LTL and MTLs on the primary hull's sidewall, these should be on retractable mounts so they may be concealed until necessary.

Romulan_nemesis · Post by **Romulan_nemesis** » 2002-10-28 05:52pm

Excuse me Emperor Solo, *bows* But You want me to follow your orders? In the words of Cher: "Follow this bitch!" *slides his middle finger up as Xena's Chakram shoots through the air, slicing off the emperor's thread, as Nemesis thanks his dark haired warrior friend*

Actually, I'm just bored...

Romulan Nemesis

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-28 06:35pm

I do believe the thread said redesign the Enterprise, not replace all aspects with SW technology.

Try using hypermatter with both hyperspace and warp engines. Gives tactical and strategic advantages. Upgraded torpedoes making them full sized but using the smaller and more compact SW torpedo systems making for a VERY powerful torpedo. Do some R&D and make higher yield phasers so you can pump hypermatter power through a phaser array (which is more energy efficent and possibly even capable of causing splash damage while shields are still up, if powered enough). Reinforce the hull where needed, still use SIF and MRE to further strengthen the ship. Bring the nacelles in closer (ALA Sabre, Defiant, etc...)

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-28 08:02pm

Well, Imperial engineers would have to remove the entire warp core andp ower generation systems. The would put in a more efficent Antimatter Annihlation engine, morte powerful torpedoes with Imperial technology, and replace the phaser arrays with TLs. Of course it wasn't "replace with SW tech", but SW tech is more powerful.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-28 08:32pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Well, Imperial engineers would have to remove the entire warp core andp ower generation systems. The would put in a more efficent Antimatter Annihlation engine, morte powerful torpedoes with Imperial technology, and replace the phaser arrays with TLs. Of course it wasn't "replace with SW tech", but SW tech is more powerful.

TLs have more raw power behind them, but phasers have greater firepower based on energy imparted. Just a small amount of power into the phasers is magnified by many magnitudes. Thus if you do some R&D into phasers to create extremely high powered phasers you have yourself some good weapons. IMO the idea is to create a ship that utilizes a combination of technology while still mostly resembling its original design ideas.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2002-10-28 09:00pm

Alyeska wrote: TLs have more raw power behind them, but phasers have greater firepower based on energy imparted. Just a small amount of power into the phasers is magnified by many magnitudes. Thus if you do some R&D into phasers to create extremely high powered phasers you have yourself some good weapons. IMO the idea is to create a ship that utilizes a combination of technology while still mostly resembling its original design ideas.

Indeed, this point is one that has only been raised occasionally, and I don't see why it wouldn't work.

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