The omnipotent Borg - revised
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The omnipotent Borg - revised
Excerpt from the baen board about how the Borg could take over the Death Star with one drone. Any comments Or should I just include the entire SD net as a cite
On 1/9/2005 1:46:22 PM, Tim Arthur wrote:
>AFAIK The _only_ Star Wars
>weapon that would even tickle
>a Borg Cube is a Death Star's
>planet killer beam. I figure
>one Borg drone that got aboard
>(_without_ the ability to
>assimilate recruits) could
>capture (by wiping out or
>driving off the crew) or
>destroy a DS singlehanded,
>being immune to the SW
>personal weaponry.
>Image of a Star Destroyer
>stopped close alongside a
>stopped Death Star, firing its
>main battery lasers _into_ the
>DS in an attempt to kill the
>sole drone boarder. Meanwhile
>the drone is raising hell,
>slaughtering the DS's crew and
>dodging the Destroyer's fire.
>
>And if a properly equipped (a
>dozen drones, an assimilator,
>a transporter, a replicator, a
>power source and a shield
>generator) Borg boarding party
>got aboard..... Recall the
>Enterprise E's near fate.
>For purposes of this exercise,
>I'm assuming the Borg have to
>replicate and surgically
>implant their hardware in
>their recruits, rather than
>growing them in the recruits
>from a quicky injection of
>nannites.
>
>
>
>On 1/9/2005 12:48:27 AM, Jonathan Caro
>wrote:
>>I don't see any Imperial (Star
>>Wars) vessels, or Borg cubes
>>(Star Trek)
>>
>>I just happen to know a few of
>>those figures, incidentally:
>>
>>Star Destroyer: 1,600m
>>Super Star Destroyer: 8,000m
>>
>>If I remember correctly, the
>>diameter of the death star was
>>100km. I might just be making
>>something up though.
>>
>>Basically, even regular Star
>>Destroyers are MUCH bigger
>>than any Federation starships
>>(almost 3 times longer than
>>the Galaxy-class
>>Enterprise-D). But while the
>>Star Wars Galaxy has the
>>technological edge on the Star
>>Trek galaxy in a lot of
>>mundane areas, with the
>>exception of lightsabers,
>>Federation weapons technology
>>is much more advanced than
>>Galactic technology.
>>
>>I figure that the Enterprise D
>>could probably easily take on
>>a super Star Destroyer, maybe
>>even the death star. And a
>>single Borg cube could
>>assimilate the entire Old
>>Republic before they had
>>massed the techology and
>>forces necessary to stop it.
>>But then I'm prejudiced
>>towards Star Trek.
>>
>>So why weren't those ships
>>shown on the website?
>>
>>Jonathan Caro
>>
>>"As a matter of fact, I DO get
>>paid to think."
>>
>>"Philosophers do it Deeper"
>
>
>
On 1/9/2005 1:46:22 PM, Tim Arthur wrote:
>AFAIK The _only_ Star Wars
>weapon that would even tickle
>a Borg Cube is a Death Star's
>planet killer beam. I figure
>one Borg drone that got aboard
>(_without_ the ability to
>assimilate recruits) could
>capture (by wiping out or
>driving off the crew) or
>destroy a DS singlehanded,
>being immune to the SW
>personal weaponry.
>Image of a Star Destroyer
>stopped close alongside a
>stopped Death Star, firing its
>main battery lasers _into_ the
>DS in an attempt to kill the
>sole drone boarder. Meanwhile
>the drone is raising hell,
>slaughtering the DS's crew and
>dodging the Destroyer's fire.
>
>And if a properly equipped (a
>dozen drones, an assimilator,
>a transporter, a replicator, a
>power source and a shield
>generator) Borg boarding party
>got aboard..... Recall the
>Enterprise E's near fate.
>For purposes of this exercise,
>I'm assuming the Borg have to
>replicate and surgically
>implant their hardware in
>their recruits, rather than
>growing them in the recruits
>from a quicky injection of
>nannites.
>
>
>
>On 1/9/2005 12:48:27 AM, Jonathan Caro
>wrote:
>>I don't see any Imperial (Star
>>Wars) vessels, or Borg cubes
>>(Star Trek)
>>
>>I just happen to know a few of
>>those figures, incidentally:
>>
>>Star Destroyer: 1,600m
>>Super Star Destroyer: 8,000m
>>
>>If I remember correctly, the
>>diameter of the death star was
>>100km. I might just be making
>>something up though.
>>
>>Basically, even regular Star
>>Destroyers are MUCH bigger
>>than any Federation starships
>>(almost 3 times longer than
>>the Galaxy-class
>>Enterprise-D). But while the
>>Star Wars Galaxy has the
>>technological edge on the Star
>>Trek galaxy in a lot of
>>mundane areas, with the
>>exception of lightsabers,
>>Federation weapons technology
>>is much more advanced than
>>Galactic technology.
>>
>>I figure that the Enterprise D
>>could probably easily take on
>>a super Star Destroyer, maybe
>>even the death star. And a
>>single Borg cube could
>>assimilate the entire Old
>>Republic before they had
>>massed the techology and
>>forces necessary to stop it.
>>But then I'm prejudiced
>>towards Star Trek.
>>
>>So why weren't those ships
>>shown on the website?
>>
>>Jonathan Caro
>>
>>"As a matter of fact, I DO get
>>paid to think."
>>
>>"Philosophers do it Deeper"
>
>
>
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Re: The omnipotent Borg - revised
Okay, so most of this is the usual uber-Trek wanker yawn-fest bullshit that's been refuted a million times. One piece of idiocy in particular is giving me a fucking headache, though (emphasis is mine):
The same clownshoe cyborgs who walk slower than my 7-month-old niece crawls are now dodging large-scale artillery bombardments like Indiana Jones outrunning temple traps?!
I can understand how they arrived at most of the crap spewed in that quote simply by virtue of poor critical thinking (most notably the No Limits and Style Over Substance fallacies), but how the fucking fuck do they "dodging the Destroyer's fire"?
Did they see the slow-ass Predator outrunning an explosion for the last ten minutes of the abysmal Aliens vs. Predator movie and figure a powerwalking Borg drone could escape a large bombardment the same way?
Those cocksuckers. Those goddamned smooth-brained illiterate monkey-fucking pricks. Their stupidity has cursed me. I know that for the next fucking week the thought of this will rise up at random intervals as my brain tries to calculate how the hell anyone could come to a conclusion so grotesquely at odds with all available evidence.
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What. The. Fuck.Meanwhile
>the drone is raising hell,
>slaughtering the DS's crew and
>dodging the Destroyer's fire.
The same clownshoe cyborgs who walk slower than my 7-month-old niece crawls are now dodging large-scale artillery bombardments like Indiana Jones outrunning temple traps?!
I can understand how they arrived at most of the crap spewed in that quote simply by virtue of poor critical thinking (most notably the No Limits and Style Over Substance fallacies), but how the fucking fuck do they "dodging the Destroyer's fire"?
Did they see the slow-ass Predator outrunning an explosion for the last ten minutes of the abysmal Aliens vs. Predator movie and figure a powerwalking Borg drone could escape a large bombardment the same way?
Those cocksuckers. Those goddamned smooth-brained illiterate monkey-fucking pricks. Their stupidity has cursed me. I know that for the next fucking week the thought of this will rise up at random intervals as my brain tries to calculate how the hell anyone could come to a conclusion so grotesquely at odds with all available evidence.
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Yes, but that's just because you maturbate to pictures of Borg drones. Everyone without this little ... problem ... can see that it's a cakewalk for the Empire.Robert Walper wrote:I do (and love it) and still think the Borg would whoop it's ass.drachefly wrote:Did this guy even WATCH Star Wars?
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Seven of Nine...maybe. The others...um...no.Darth Wong wrote:Yes, but that's just because you maturbate to pictures of Borg drones.Robert Walper wrote:I do (and love it) and still think the Borg would whoop it's ass.drachefly wrote:Did this guy even WATCH Star Wars?
Ah...but you fail to consider the power of Trek. Continuity is optional, as is predefined weaknesses, strengths and abilities.Everyone without this little ... problem ... can see that it's a cakewalk for the Empire.
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How do you people find these singular posts on obscure boards halfway across the internet? If only you used your investigative skills for good!Batman wrote:Erm-as Baen is a publishing company and their board is consequently intended mainly for discussing their books, why in Valen's name should they?SancheztheWhaler wrote:What exactly is the baen board? They don't appear to have ever heard of SDNet.
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