Quick question about SW and 35mm camera

Darth PhysBod · Post by **Darth PhysBod** » 2002-12-12 01:47pm

Is Darkstars spiel about the original trilogy being filmed with a 35mm camera, and thus its use in scaling distances correct?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-12 03:02pm

Evil S'tan wrote:Is Darkstars spiel about the original trilogy being filmed with a 35mm camera, and thus its use in scaling distances correct?

The OT was filmed on 35 mm film. But that is pretty standard. I'm not sure what you mean by scaling distances though. If there was distortion I'm pretty sure that it would come about due to the lenses used, not the film stock.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-12 03:06pm

I'm assuming that they used 35mm film with anamorphic lenses for both the OT and TPM.

Other than that, I have no idea what DarkStar said.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-12 03:14pm

IMDB:

Star Wars:

Film Negative Format: 35 mm
Cinematographic Process: Panavision (anamorphic)

The Empire Strikes Back:

Film Negative Format: 35 mm
Cinematographic Process: Panavision (anamorphic)

Return of the Jedi:

Film Negative Fromat: 35 mm
Cinematographic Process: J-D-C Scope

The Phantom Menace:

Film Negative Fromat: 35 mm
Cinematographic Process: Arriscope

Attack of the Clones:

Film Negative Format: Video
Cinematographic Process: HDTV (1080p) (24fps)

Darth PhysBod · Post by **Darth PhysBod** » 2002-12-12 03:15pm

This is where Darkstar is using it to scale distances:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWwarsrange.html

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-12 03:42pm

He uses image distance to lens as 35 mm. I don't think this is correct. 35 mm refers to the film stock, not image distance to lens. So he gets screwed up results.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-12-12 03:49pm

neoolong wrote:He uses image distance to lens as 35 mm. I don't think this is correct. 35 mm refers to the film stock, not image distance to lens. So he gets screwed up results.

That's right 35mm stands for the size of the film not the distance to the film. Te term for that is the focal length

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-12-12 07:20pm

Indeed, though it's probably unlikely that Lucasfilm will release the information on the lens sizes.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-12-13 12:43am

Every time a camera zooms in or out the lens focal length is changed. As such the focal length can vary from second to second within each shot let alone from scene to scene. It simply wouldn't be practical to publish focal length data on a second by second basis--even assuming Lucasfilm kept records of the information in the first place.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 01:01am

But just what the hell is DarkStar's argument? Why would the format of the film or lens configuration even matter?

Is this just another example of how delusional and insane DarkStar is?

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-12-13 01:29am

I'm with Spanky. Discussion about film type seems like a non sequitur in the context of the quoted bits in the OP. What's next... "Cheerios are part of a complete breakfast, so that's canon proof that turbolasers aren't 200 GT"?

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-12-13 01:39am

Oh, wait, I get it, that's S'tan's sig. Confusing...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-13 03:32am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:But just what the hell is DarkStar's argument? Why would the format of the film or lens configuration even matter?

Is this just another example of how delusional and insane DarkStar is?

He is either a moron, or lying. He uses a formula and since he doesn't have the right numbers, he grabs a number he finds about the film and plugs that in. Thus his results are screwed up. So either he is frigging incompetent, or knows that he is wrong and hopes someone will buy it if he uses big words.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-13 03:35am

Fuck, DarkStar's probably the only person I'd actually strangle if I ever ran into him...

If he's doing shit like that, he's a waste of carbon.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-12-13 04:55pm

Fuck, DarkStar's probably the only person I'd actually strangle if I ever ran into him...

I wouldn't. I'd have his skin cells all over me, and that'd probably turn me into one of him.

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