Ugly Alien Soldiers

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2002-12-21 04:18am

Which alien would you rather have as part of your armed forces. Originally I thought i'd pit the Remans against the Jem'Hadar but I threw in some SW species for good measure. Tech has no bearing since (hypothetically) you are supplying the weaponry and the training.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2002-12-21 08:54am

If I get the Jem'Hadar cloning facilities & have the Jem'Hadar programmed to be loyal to me, then with proper training they would be incrediably useful.

Gungan, they sure as hell dont get my vote. They are responsible for the horror that is Jah-Jah Binks(sp). Plus semi-amphibious species need to much special care compared to human norm(Gungan stike me as over evolved frogs...).

As for Remans, they dont have a track record nor did they do very well from what I've heard from ST:10. The Jem'Hadar however do, and we at least have all their abilities & weakness explained to us.

Thinks of Jem'Hadar using proper squad tactics, and actuall using their abilities to the fullest.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2002-12-21 01:33pm

although the gungans did pretty well against the tradefed army (with their inferior tech and numerical disadvantage) i'd subtract points from them just because they were stupid enough to make jar-jar a general but the jem hadar could be a highly dangerous force with the right equitment and training (for instance supply a jemmie army with current u.s. military equitment and training then watch the feddies try to beat them ahhhh the slaughter) but the remans got their asses handed to them by feddie ensigns

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2002-12-21 01:50pm

Here's a few more that I can think of to add:

Trandoshans (SW): for those who don't know, it's the lizard-like bounty hunter from ESB. They're physically as strong as Wookies and have limited regenerative abilities. Clumsy though, because of the 3-fingered hands.

Gamorreans (SW): the pig guards from ROTJ. Strong, but slow and primitive.

Noghri (SW): from the EU Tim Zahn novels. Insanely bad-ass fighters.

Nausicaans (ST): from TNG, they're the ones that look like Predator rip-offs. They've got size and strength but apparently not much intelligence from the examples we've seen.

From the choices in the poll, and given that I'd be the one providing the training and equipment, I'd take the Remans over the Jem'Hadar. The reason is simple: white. With an army of Jem'Hadar you'd have to assure a constant supply of it, and you'd have the chronic worry of what would happen should you somehow be unable to supply it. Remans don't have that limitation: they may have a problem with bright light, but I'd just issue sunglasses for that

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-21 03:03pm

Out of those three, I have to go with the Jem'Hadar. They are actually quite a bit more lethal than the other two. They have energy weapons that are obviously more accurate and more manageable than the Gungans, appear to be stronger than the Gungans, and are more professional and accurate in their shooting than the horrible Remans. Plus, they don't mind light, and can cloak themselves in the visible spectrum.

With the additions, I go with the Trandoshans or the Noghri. The Noghri are quick, agile, strong, and dependable. The Trandoshans are enormously strong and carry cuncussion rifles in the game (and the ESB shows that at least one Trandoshan actually does use such a weapon). When young, they can also regenerate lost limbs and recover from literally being skinned alive.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-12-21 07:29pm

I'd rather have an army of wookies but from that lot erm... erm... jem Hadar because Gungans are a pain in the neck and the Remans I knock precisely jack and shit about.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-22 12:18am

Was it stupid to make Jar Jar a general or

were they expecting him to die gloriously in battle.Remeber when Boss Nass made him a general the idiot passed out in frgiht

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2002-12-22 04:45am

The Kroot!!!

Ooops, did you mean ugly alien soldiers from SW/ST??

I think the Jem'hadar would be one of my first choices, as they have the ability to make themselves invisible.

However, their dependency upon Ketracel White becomes a little annoying if they get isolated from supplies.

The Gungans have rather low technology and not many ranged weapons.

I don't know anything about the Remans as I haven't seen ST: Nemesis.

So I think I'll go with...

WOOKIEES!!!
Grooowl! Roooaarr!!

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-12-22 11:09am

i'll have to add something. the ideal soldiers would be Klingons with Imperial tech! that would be one nasty fighting force!

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2002-12-22 11:37am

Col. Crackpot wrote:i'll have to add something. the ideal soldiers would be Klingons with Imperial tech! that would be one nasty fighting force!

Why the hell you would want Klingons? They are just humans with bad dental work & bumpy bits stuck to their head and have a hell of a lot of cultureal baggage. After you train them to useful level(if you can get arround the Cultural baggage), you would end up with some thing that look like a Klingon but thats about all they had in common with klingons.

Why dont you choice some grunts that would be easier to train, and dont have to be retought to get ride of some horrible cultural baggage. ie Ditching range weapon & rush people with range weapons with sharp knife, screaming at the top of their lungs will moving in a near perfect striaght line, over ~10 metres(the is a reason it is generally suicide to bring a knife to a gun fight).

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-22 12:13pm

The Sidrians (Dual Hermaphodites, with overwhelming pheremones, and Lovecraftian in appearances) ok, it's not from either Starwars or Startrek. I think it was either Heinline or Foster.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-22 12:48pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:i'll have to add something. the ideal soldiers would be Klingons with Imperial tech! that would be one nasty fighting force!

Hell no! The Klingons get beaten by everyone and are idiots!

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-22 01:24pm

Klingon??Puhlease "Let us drop our disruptors and use our blades to settle this " there current enemy" Hose those egotistical clusterfucks down wirth machinegun fire "Frontal assaults started dying off in WW1

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-22 01:45pm

Of the choices available, I'll take the Gungans. This is because they are actually somewhat intelligent (unlike the remans), don't need a supply of white (unlike the Jem'hadar), and I happen to like Jar-Jar binks (being one of the few bumbling fools in the Star Wars movies that actually admits he's a bumbling fool).

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » 2002-12-22 04:55pm

I would choose the Jem'Hadar just because of their loyality.
But if I had more choices I would want the Hirogen. (ST:VOY)

They are strong, can stand the vacuum of space, they follow order.
Their ability to function as squads would also be an asset except the honor thing...

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-12-22 05:08pm

Waaaggghh Ork!
oh, right, ST/SW, in that case, Noghri.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-22 11:01pm

Zerg or Tyranids

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-12-22 11:51pm

Out of the three listed, I'll take the Remans. If I take the Jemmies I would have to deal with a drug issue...

Overall, I would take a *smart* human as my minion...Like a clone.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-22 11:58pm

EmperorMing wrote:Out of the three listed, I'll take the Remans. If I take the Jemmies I would have to deal with a drug issue...

Overall, I would take a *smart* human as my minion...Like a clone.

Oh come off it: Shinzon wasn't "smart" by any definition of the word. Remember, <spoiler>he IS a clone of Picard.</spoiler>

(Not that that's not something that everybody already knows, but I thought I'd err on the side of caution)

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-12-23 12:12am

If Jar-Jar comes along with the Gungan package, then Gungans. His character shield is just impervious. Else, the Jemmies.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-23 12:14am

All three are utter morons As they come out of the box so to say. Upper body strength matters less ever day in combat, and thats the only real advantage the Klingons and Jemmies have. And its not even that big. The Remans are just stupid. I'll keep them in the mines.

I'd just use humans, and I'm not bothering with cloning. Lifetime conscription of children at a moderate age, 6-10, will give me the same results but skip much of the annoying life skills training stuff.

Teaching an army to read would be a fucking pain...

Now thats not to say I wound't have some Zerg as guard dogs/terror enforcers of doom, or Noghri for small scale Speical Operations.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-12-23 12:36am

data_link wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Out of the three listed, I'll take the Remans. If I take the Jemmies I would have to deal with a drug issue...

Overall, I would take a *smart* human as my minion...Like a clone.
Oh come off it: Shinzon wasn't "smart" by any definition of the word. Remember, <spoiler>he IS a clone of Picard.</spoiler>

(Not that that's not something that everybody already knows, but I thought I'd err on the side of caution)

Mind you, I did say *smart*...

And when I said "clone", I meant "clone trooper", and not some Trek character that was duplicated. That's what I get for not making myself clear.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-23 03:09am

Or better yet Book version of the Klenduthu Arachnids.

Hatched with full combat memories of their father, by the millions, so tough you have to destroy their whole Central Nervious system, and just enough IQ to handle a rifle.

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