Hand held phaser numbers.

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2002-12-20 04:43am

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=41698

Some food for thought debate it if you want.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-20 05:02am

Worthless non-canon garbage.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2002-12-20 08:32am

In response to Vympel:
Oh dear not another ICS thread

It was a jk people.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2002-12-20 10:50am

I think I have this thread pretty well under control at SB.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-20 03:33pm

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... ost1015072

This might be of interest to alot of you.

I still don't believe it...

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2002-12-20 05:18pm

Vertigo1 wrote:http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... ost1015072

This might be of interest to alot of you. I still don't believe it...

*Pssst...* thats to my thread.:p

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-20 05:44pm

Oh wow. 67 kiloton rifles. THAT sounds believable

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-12-20 06:18pm

Give 'em some real refutations, else you're just like Trekkies immediately post-ICS.

Roga Danar detonates a type-2 phaser in TNG: "The Hunted". It explodes with a good deal less energy than a stick of dynamite.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-21 01:15am

What's the point of refuting non-canon?

If it was calcs based off the episodes- then maybe someone would bother posting a refutation.

Also, I'm not going to pretend that there's any legitimacy to saying it's the same as ICS- all ICS did was establish what was already known from official material (Base Delta Zero, Slave Ship etc.) which did put firepower in the gigatons.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-21 01:17am

Howedar wrote:Roga Danar detonates a type-2 phaser in TNG: "The Hunted". It explodes with a good deal less energy than a stick of dynamite.

[trekkie]Ah, but he had it on the low-power setting

[/trekkie]

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-21 02:40am

Howedar wrote:Roga Danar detonates a type-2 phaser in TNG: "The Hunted". It explodes with a good deal less energy than a stick of dynamite.

Also, we've seen level 16 blasts in the show. No such huge energy state increases were observed. In fact, the disappearance of the target is technically a mass/energy DECREASE, not an increase.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2002-12-21 09:25am

You know, Starfleet became even stupider once B & B took over (I guess I don't need to point that out). Remember on TNG, the officers would frequently use the phasers (type 1, is it?) that are smaller than the palm of one's hand, but sometime during DS9 they were phased out. We never saw them again.

I saw a few Voyager episodes were that phaser would have been a much better choice in certain situations, but instead they used the regular lame dust buster phaser. I think B & B decided that the smaller phaser just didn't look cool enough. What a bunch of assholes.

I remember Kirk and Spock used the smaller phaser all the time. I wish they would bring that back.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-21 02:02pm

No SB2.0

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-23 11:15pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Oh wow. 67 kiloton rifles. THAT sounds believable

Perhaps if you scaled the DS down to that size...

Anyway, the main argument Trekkies had for such wimpy power was that they weren't set on maximum power. Tihs was refuted by bringing up how a phaser with the ability to destroy a building would have made it easier for the Federation in many cases. However, if it was that easy, then there wouldn't be enough content to fill an episode.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-24 01:31am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Oh wow. 67 kiloton rifles. THAT sounds believable

Can you imagine the recoil?

Flying redshirts anyone?

Maybe turn it into a circus act.

(hey, I thought it was funny.

)

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-24 01:32am

Laird wrote:
Vertigo1 wrote:http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... ost1015072

This might be of interest to alot of you. I still don't believe it...
*Pssst...* thats to my thread.:p

Psst! I don't give a shit!