How any Soveirgn-class ships would it take?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-12-22 08:28pm

4K Sovs huh? Anyone wanna figure out how many decadesit would take for the Feds to pull THAT off!

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-12-23 12:07am

Did ya'll forget that I said that the Ties are fighting too?

Its Battle Royale

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2002-12-23 01:22am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Pcm979 wrote:
FaxModem1 wrote:to destroy an Imperial Star Destoyer?

1000
5000
10000
1000000

Just how many would it take?
One Soverign-class Star Destroyer.

I KNEW someone would say that!

He he.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-23 01:49am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:4K Sovs huh? Anyone wanna figure out how many decadesit would take for the Feds to pull THAT off!

Assuming that they didn't change the number of battleship sized construction docks after BOBW and that they don't increase that number of docks for this project, and using the 6 year construction time, it will take just over 60 decades to build that many.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-12-23 07:30am

Except as Alyseka would say that runs contrary to observed shipcounts during the end of DS9 where they finaly smarted up and had a few thousand ships mostly new types on hand

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-23 12:01pm

Hey Mr. Bean, how many would it take with the med-end SW calcs?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-23 12:41pm

I think a reasonable number of Sovereigns might be able to damage an ISD if they all start ramming it at high velocity (assuming they can do this). Their weapons, however, would be useless. It's like asking how many longbowmen it would take to knock out an M1 Abrams.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-23 12:44pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think a reasonable number of Sovereigns might be able to damage an ISD if they all start ramming it at high velocity (assuming they can do this). Their weapons, however, would be useless. It's like asking how many longbowmen it would take to knock out an M1 Abrams.

One.
Of course only if the driver looks out, gets shot in the head and the tank falls down a cliff

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-23 01:00pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think a reasonable number of Sovereigns might be able to damage an ISD if they all start ramming it at high velocity (assuming they can do this). Their weapons, however, would be useless. It's like asking how many longbowmen it would take to knock out an M1 Abrams.

Do they get pikemen for close in defence?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-23 01:27pm

Mr Bean wrote:Except as Alyseka would say that runs contrary to observed shipcounts during the end of DS9 where they finaly smarted up and had a few thousand ships mostly new types on hand

Yes, but how many of them were battleship sized? (GCS size). Not many. Most were shorter, in the less then 500 meter range.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-12-23 04:32pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think a reasonable number of Sovereigns might be able to damage an ISD if they all start ramming it at high velocity (assuming they can do this). Their weapons, however, would be useless. It's like asking how many longbowmen it would take to knock out an M1 Abrams.

According to Civ3 four or five ought to be enough

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-23 04:38pm

Well they may be able to climb on board, open it up somhow and shoot the people inside

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-12-23 04:53pm

Was it not one Darkstar himself who posted that idea? I could be wrong, but I do remember somebody saying that a medevil horse-mounted knight could kill a tank by hopping on, opening the hatch, and killing the crew. And they never looked at him the same way again.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-23 04:59pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Was it not one Darkstar himself who posted that idea? I could be wrong, but I do remember somebody saying that a medevil horse-mounted knight could kill a tank by hopping on, opening the hatch, and killing the crew. And they never looked at him the same way again.

What do you mean? By that time, they already thought Darkstar was an idiot.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-12-23 05:50pm

I was at least joking...Darkstar probably wasnt

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-23 11:11pm

The Feds wouldn't have enough ships in their fleet to take out an ISD's shields. They're screwed. Hee hee...

Of course, since thousands of Fed ships are needed to take it down, it would take the ISD a while to destroy each Federation ship.

Patrick Ogaard · Post by **Patrick Ogaard** » 2002-12-26 12:47pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think a reasonable number of Sovereigns might be able to damage an ISD if they all start ramming it at high velocity (assuming they can do this). Their weapons, however, would be useless. It's like asking how many longbowmen it would take to knock out an M1 Abrams.

Answer: 2. Bo Duke and Luke Duke, with their trusty TNT-tipped arrows and strategically placed 55 gallon drums of gasoline half-buried on the battlefield.

The tank rumbles onto the battlefield, our trusty archers pop up out of concealment and begin firing. Shot one goes straight down the 120 mm cannon barrel, shot two blows off all turret-top fittings, shot three takes out the co-axial MG, and shots four and five touch off 110 gallons of gasoline that the tank conveniently drove partially on top of, disabling both tracks.

Just to stay remotely on topic with my post, I'd have to say that a squadron of about a dozen Sovereigns supported by several hundred flying wrecks should be sufficient. Really.

Consider how big an antimatter missile a Sovereign could be. Pack all available spaces with full antimatter containment pods, strip out all but a skeleton crew of suicide jockeys, and speed the squadron on its way. The flying wrecks, like those the Federation apparently maintains in mothballs in large orbital storage yards, do nothing but fly into the teeth of enemy fire and explode. Screened by that short-lived defense, a dozen Sovereign-class starships arrow in on the ISD and try to ram. If two or three make it through the ISD's fighter screen and defensive fire, the ISD may be hurting.

There are problems with that tactic, of course: where to get the thousands of tons of antimatter needed per attack, where to get the hundreds of Sovereign missiles that would have to be prepositioned at each vulnerable point of the Federation defenses, where to get the tens of thousands of expendable screening ships, why a scaled down version of that brute force approach was not used against the Borg ...

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