Sovereign vs Defiant

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-24 10:17am

SCS will win and very easily too. Remember that an upgraded ECS was almost a match for the Defiant. (Ref: DS9 Paradise Lost)

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-24 10:18am

The Nomad wrote:Chin'Toka is a major outpost of the Dominion/Cardassian/Breen Alliance.

The vessel he's speaking about was a Hideki-class, a Cardassian military patrolship.

Actually it's a solar system IIRC

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-26 12:55pm

The Defiant could pull off similar moves the Mirror Defiant pulled off against the Mirror Worfs Klingon Battle Cruiser. Pull out the Soverigns teeth and hope you don't get gummed to death on the way out?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-12-26 01:05pm

Yeah, uh huh. First its gotta get close without getting the shit blown out of it, then its gotta penetrate the shields on the first pass, then its gotta hit each and every weapons emplacement, then its gotta get out, all without getting blown apart itself.

Real likely.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2002-12-26 01:20pm

Defiant vs the Sovereign? Yeeaahh, rriiight...
The Sovereign could paste the Defiant again and again and again...
After watching Nemesis I'm not sure a Defiant class starship could take out the Sovereign's shields if it had a whole minute's head start!

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-26 03:58pm

Darth Pounder wrote:The Defiant could pull off similar moves the Mirror Defiant pulled off against the Mirror Worfs Klingon Battle Cruiser. Pull out the Soverigns teeth and hope you don't get gummed to death on the way out?

That was a Klingon ship though. When the Defiant went up against an upgraded ECS it was nearly a draw.

Sothis · Post by **Sothis** » 2002-12-26 03:58pm

Captain Kruger wrote:
Sothis wrote:Defiant class ships have been seen to pull off moves that Sovies can't, such as in 'Paradise Lost', where the Defiant flips around, and in 'For the Uniform', where it jinks around a bit. For sheer firepower, then yes, the Sovies take it, but agility also comes into play, which means this will be a painful fight for the Sovies- they'll win, but by no means will they win comfortably.
(rolling eyes) Christ, back to this "maneuverability rules the day" crap again, are you? This is the same guy who thought the Feds could stand a real chance against the Empire since their superior maneuverability would, of course, allow them to dodge the hundreds of TLs coming their way. *uncontrollable laughter ensues*

Dear god. I never said that the Feds would WIN, you will see that I accept a swift Imperial victory if you check around.

Besides, this is different. Sovvies don't have the same firing arc as an ISD. Nor as many weapons. A good team on the Defiant-class ship could pull it off. Generic Vs Generic? Then I agree, Sovvies win.