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My reason for asking was just curiosity, but thinking about it I think there has been at least one instance of blaster-blocking without lightsabers in the 2D clone wars.Metahive wrote:Why does it matter? If you take everything but the movies away you still have only Vader doing the blaster-block.jwl wrote: Is the 2D clone wars cartoon canon currently?
So, just out of idle curiosity, if they blew up Tantive IV (ignoring for the moment that never actually happened), how exactly does he explain Leia being a captive later in the movie?
Yeah, my level of fandom is generally somewhere like so:Batman wrote:I guess it's easier to say 'They say Trek loses! They're biased!' than actually look at what goes on on the board, which would result in them finding out that-a lot of us are pretty serious Trek fans, even the ones that agree that Wars would beat Trek like nobody's business disagree about what 'nobody's business' actually means, happily agree that Trek has useful technologies Wars does not, and so on.
Unfortunately I think some fans (of anything, be it a sci-fi context or otherwise) need to shore up their appreciation of something by bashing a rival. On a Formula 1 board I visit I got into a few arguments with someone who is a passionate Ferrari fan, but he felt the need to take this passion and extend it to hating not just rival teams but the nationalities of other teams and drivers. I found it sad that he had to shore up his national identity by engaging in regular jingoistic chest-thumping exercises.Optimus Metallus wrote:Yeah, my level of fandom is generally somewhere like so:Batman wrote:I guess it's easier to say 'They say Trek loses! They're biased!' than actually look at what goes on on the board, which would result in them finding out that-a lot of us are pretty serious Trek fans, even the ones that agree that Wars would beat Trek like nobody's business disagree about what 'nobody's business' actually means, happily agree that Trek has useful technologies Wars does not, and so on.
1) Star Trek
2) Warhammer 40,000
3) Babylon 5
4) Star Wars
And I'll readily admit that the Galactic Empire can beat them all bloody. I find it odd, though, that some fans apparently feel threatened when their favorite universe isn't also the most destructively powerful fictional universe depicted ever. What made them a fan, their enjoyment of the stories they were presented with, or their belief that the Federation was the biggest, baddest space empire ever created in sci-fi? I doubt it was the latter, and yet they feel the need to believe that's the case.
For instance, in my opinion Babylon 5 is better written and better conceived than any Star Trek show, but the Federation would thrash the Earth Alliance if they were thrown together into a fight. But so what? It doesn't detract from my enjoyment of Babylon 5 in the slightest. It doesn't diminish JMS's achievements in that series in any way, any more than the Galactic Empire's ability to trounce the Federation within days takes away my enjoyment of TNG's "Tapestry", DS9's "In the Pale Moonlight", or TOS's "The City on the Edge of Forever." I'm principally a Star Trek fan* because of episodes like those I just listed, not because I'm engaged in some kind of fan d*** measuring contest and I need to believe that Star Trek, 40k, Babylon 5, Star Wars, or whatever has the biggest swinging shaft of them all.
*BTW: I'm posting under a 40k ID, but I base internet usernames on my mood at the time that I registered that name more than anything else. I think I'm on a Star Trek site elsewhere with a D&D name and a Star Wars site with a Star Trek name, a Twitter account under the name of a Marvel Universe character, while I used to have a YouTube account under a Star Wars name.
I'm not sure you'll make a dent in his Wall of Ignorance. I have it on authority that he's a homophobe and a creationist to boot - says a lot about his mentality for this sort of thing.Battlegrinder wrote:I've just now issued a challenge for him to engage in a formal debate over the matter. I'm interested in seeing if he's gusty enough to stop hiding on his heavily control comments page and actually engage in a reasoned debate.
darth_timon wrote:I'm not sure you'll make a dent in his Wall of Ignorance. I have it on authority that he's a homophobe and a creationist to boot - says a lot about his mentality for this sort of thing.Battlegrinder wrote:I've just now issued a challenge for him to engage in a formal debate over the matter. I'm interested in seeing if he's gusty enough to stop hiding on his heavily control comments page and actually engage in a reasoned debate.
