A Tall Glass Of Perspective(Big Picture)

Evil Jerk · Post by **Evil Jerk** » 2002-09-09 11:37am

Not that the DS2 would've had any openings into the superstructure once it was completed..

Oh, and if gases don't affect phased people, what do they breathe?

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2002-09-09 01:03pm

Let me get this straight: a tenth of a second of above-normal air pressure in the lungs will cause immediate chest-burst? You are aware that human beings can easily survive 1 bar overpressure, right? Think about scuba divers for a moment.
Yes. The point is though Ro walks completely through Picard. When she is half way through the pressure is double, when she's 3/4ths of the way through the pressure has quadrupled, when she's 7/8ths of the way through the pressure has octupled (assuming ideality because I'm too lazy to get the constants for Van der Waals), so on and so forth. The front of Ro's chest will displace air as it moves forward, at some point she passes all the way through Picard so the distance between the front of her chest and the back of Picard's lungs is effectively zero.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if if the volume between the front of Ro's chest and the back of Picard's lungs goes near zero we should see a *massive* overpressure. P being proportional to V (or V^3 if I remember non-ideality right) at a near constant T.

Further in the case of scuba divers the pressure coming from the back inward and the pressure is equal over the entire surface area (or close enough). I may be wrong, but I've been told it's much easier to crack an egg from the inside out than vice versa.

This is assuming that the phasing rate is sufficient to pass through heavy-metal armour and not just light silicates. See "Pegasus", and that the missile is unaffected by spatial distortion fields and shields, and that they don't detect it.
Assuming they don't detect it? Yes. However small cloaked objects are not normal in SW (please note this is not saying that they are not present at all, just that small cloaked objects appear to be uncommon, the smallest I'm aware of is Darth Maul's ship).

Assuming the phasing rate is sufficient to get through the heavy-metal armor? Depends. If they can get enough from optics/intel to plot the course through the holes in the superstructure, no. If not yes I'm making that assumption.

Assuming it makes it through sheilds? Well I was thinking of attaching it the upper hull of the shuttle and just releasing it before a slight acceleration.

No, their best shot is to surrender. Only idiots take a million-to-one shot of survival rather than surrendering.
Really? And the odds at both Endor and Yavin were what exactly? Plenty of people will take odds like that: those who are garunteed to die anyways, those who are blinded by a need for revenge, etc.

I had been operating off the premise that for whatever reason the only solution was a military one, if not a better option is to run away and maybe hide hijack an unarmed ship or hire a ship and run the hell away as fast as hyperspace will carry you. Plastic surgery, acid burns of the fingertips, etc. also help.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-09-09 02:22pm

VF5SS wrote:FEAR THE GIANT BLACK DOT!

Sorry to stray from the subject, but I found this to be absolutely hillarious.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-09-09 02:46pm

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Little Square and Speck must fear its mighty dotness!!!!

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-09 02:52pm

Assuming they don't detect it? Yes. However small cloaked objects are not normal in SW (please note this is not saying that they are not present at all, just that small cloaked objects appear to be uncommon, the smallest I'm aware of is Darth Maul's ship

Tie Phatom, Take Vadars TIE, Increase the speed and add a cloaking device they are trakable

Really? And the odds at both Endor and Yavin were what exactly? Plenty of people will take odds like that: those who are garunteed to die anyways, those who are blinded by a need for revenge, etc.

Yavin
No choice they where traped by the DS, It had to die or they would, either there or later on

Endor
Acutal pretty good 30 ISDs and a non-working DS is not that bad(Parituclary when it lacks all the surface weaponry the DS I had) VS 20 Mixed Ship types with quite a few Mon Cals

2:1 Odds maybe 3:1 not INSANLY Bad
Unlike the ST VS SW where is roughlt hmm... Kuat, Brinringia, plus that, carry the two....
51720-1

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-09-09 04:57pm

What they're saying right now...

Borg Cube: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your distinctiveness... holy fuck!

GCS USS Specky: Help meeeeeeeeeeeee! Help meeeeeeee!!!

DS2: Boo.

Evil Jerk · Post by **Evil Jerk** » 2002-09-09 05:00pm

Borg Cube: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your distinctiveness... holy fuck!

I doubt they'd say that, the Borg are so damn stupid that they never realise they're screwed even if the enemy is ramming defeat up their collective asses.

I can just see their tiny little Cube charging towards the DS, repeating their tired mantra, and promptly being smashed to bite-sized Borg chunks.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-09-09 05:04pm

DS flies along gently... A small bump.

Jerjerrod: Helmsman, what was that?

Helmsman: A cubical starship three kilometers on each side drifted in front of us and stood still, sir. It tried to transmit something before it impacted harmlessly on our shields.

Jerjerrod: Really? How strange.

Helmsman: No, sir. What's strange is the tiny speck ahead of us transmitting 'Ding dong the witch is dead'.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-09-09 05:10pm

SirNitram wrote:DS flies along gently... A small bump.

Jerjerrod: Helmsman, what was that?

Helmsman: A cubical starship three kilometers on each side drifted in front of us and stood still, sir. It tried to transmit something before it impacted harmlessly on our shields.

Jerjerrod: Really? How strange.

Helmsman: No, sir. What's strange is the tiny speck ahead of us transmitting 'Ding dong the witch is dead'.

that's classic i love it

*dies laughing*

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-09-09 05:37pm

Evil Jerk wrote:
Borg Cube: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your distinctiveness... holy fuck!
I doubt they'd say that, the Borg are so damn stupid that they never realise they're screwed even if the enemy is ramming defeat up their collective asses.

I can just see their tiny little Cube charging towards the DS, repeating their tired mantra, and promptly being smashed to bite-sized Borg chunks.

I think you're right. If I remember correctly the Borg kept doing that exact thing as Species 8472(?) kept toasting cubes in "Scorpion"

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-09-09 06:07pm

Can you picture the giant windshiled used to sweep off those little bugs

Grand Admiral Ancaris · Post by **Grand Admiral Ancaris** » 2002-09-09 06:50pm

SirNitram wrote:DS flies along gently... A small bump.

Jerjerrod: Helmsman, what was that?

Helmsman: A cubical starship three kilometers on each side drifted in front of us and stood still, sir. It tried to transmit something before it impacted harmlessly on our shields.

Jerjerrod: Really? How strange.

Helmsman: No, sir. What's strange is the tiny speck ahead of us transmitting 'Ding dong the witch is dead'.

*busts out laughing*

ooooooh man...... That's the best laugh I've had in a long while.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-09-09 08:11pm

Ya know what the real bitch of it is?

The scaling is off

THe DS2 is 900 km, not 800 km. It's even bigger.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-09 08:23pm

Even better if you worked in a WOMP! sound to when they run over the cube

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-09-10 01:27am

Mr Bean wrote:Even better if you worked in a WOMP! sound to when they run over the cube

Or maybe it would <pop> against the sheilds just like a bug in a bugzapper.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-09-12 12:04am

SirNitram wrote:DS flies along gently... A small bump.

Jerjerrod: Helmsman, what was that?

Helmsman: A cubical starship three kilometers on each side drifted in front of us and stood still, sir. It tried to transmit something before it impacted harmlessly on our shields.

Jerjerrod: Really? How strange.

Helmsman: No, sir. What's strange is the tiny speck ahead of us transmitting 'Ding dong the witch is dead'.

ROFLMAO!

That's rich!

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-09-12 06:00am

Tsyroc wrote:
Evil Jerk wrote:
Borg Cube: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your distinctiveness... holy fuck!
I doubt they'd say that, the Borg are so damn stupid that they never realise they're screwed even if the enemy is ramming defeat up their collective asses.

I can just see their tiny little Cube charging towards the DS, repeating their tired mantra, and promptly being smashed to bite-sized Borg chunks.

I think you're right. If I remember correctly the Borg kept doing that exact thing as Species 8472(?) kept toasting cubes in "Scorpion"

They did? I only remember that at the start of the episode.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-09-12 06:16am

Thank you for bringing the size comparison to light for those of us who were previously deprived.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-12 09:03am

Indeed