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Miscellaneous Notes from STI Revelations

During their attempt to locate Data, Worf stated that "he must be using the planet's rings to mask his approach". Why would a vessel that is visible to the naked eye be completely cloaked from Federation sensors, simply by virtue of proximity to a source of "metaphasic radiation"?
In SW, a Star Destroyer can hide from scanning by placing itself in a planet's rings (I, Jedi)
The Federation cloaked ship in the lake. Why bother cloaking it, if it's underwater? One possibility is concern about intrepid snorkelers.
The Enterprise might've scanned it from orbit, or one of the explorers might accidentaly scan it (Data)
During their attempt to evade capture, Picard informed the Ba'ku villagers that "these veins of kelvanite running through the hills will interfere with their transporters. And when the terrain forces us away from the deposits, then we'll use transport inhibitors as a compensation. The mountains have the heaviest concentration of kelvanite. Once there, it will make transport virtually impossible." Why would natural ores like this "kelvanite" substance make transport virtually impossible? How many other substances exist with this property?
So we add Kelvanite to the list.
At one point, a Ba'ku kid says "don't you ever get tired?" to Data. Data responds with "my power cells continuously recharge themselves." What? Data is a perpetual motion machine? How can power cells continuously recharge themselves? Can anyone say "thermodynamics?" Is there some kind of contest among Star Trek writers to see who can write the most scientifically offensive statement in the fewest words?
Is is possible that Data only uses half his power cells at one time while the other half recharge?
When running from So'na warships, Riker orders "full impulse!" Laforge responds, "the manifolds can't handle full impulse in the Patch, Commander," to which Riker says "if we don't outrun them, the manifolds will be the only thing left of this ship." Why would a starship require manifolds which interact with gases in space? What happened to the navigational deflectors?
Nothing to say here.
Sparks shoot from damaged components all through this film, from the So'na drones to the instrument panels on the Enterprise when it is hit. Apparently, the Federation has finally realized that good ol' electricity is much safer than volatile conduits carrying pressurized superheated gas, and is perfectly adequate for instrumentation purposes. Something that any engineer could have explained to the writers long ago.
Yay. They finally woke up.
Holograms can be shot at and damaged, as if they were physical objects. It is possible that the observation-post hologram was a forcefield/hologram construct, and energy from Data's phaser blast may have fed back into the generator system, overloading it. This may explain the apparently contradictory behaviour.
Are you talking about how Data got shot or how the CC got shot? Or both?
In the crew's second confrontation with the So'na drones, the drones appeared, formed up a few dozen metres away from the crew's position, and then waited more than ten seconds so that the camera could pan over our brave heroes for the "showdown at the OK corral" shot! The drones even politely gave Picard enough time to gently lay down Anij- how chivalrous! Why would a bunch of machines play this silly "showdown at the OK corral" game?
As stated in the Revelations page, its possible that Sona were controlling them and were confidant in their numbers, so they decided to play a little.
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IG-88E wrote:Miscellaneous Notes from STI Revelations

At one point, a Ba'ku kid says "don't you ever get tired?" to Data. Data responds with "my power cells continuously recharge themselves." What? Data is a perpetual motion machine? How can power cells continuously recharge themselves? Can anyone say "thermodynamics?" Is there some kind of contest among Star Trek writers to see who can write the most scientifically offensive statement in the fewest words?
Is is possible that Data only uses half his power cells at one time while the other half recharge?
Recharge from where?

If half his power cells are recharging the energy has to come from somewhere.
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The explanation I heard was that Data uses a subspace tap as his power source or that its further proof that our physical laws dont govern the ST universe.
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yes power has to come from somewhere but this solution is iffy at best
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Maybe he carries a 'battery' and can recharge using in, but only needs to recharge the battery, like, say, every year?

I'm just trying to find SOME way for it to work.
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The only reasonable answer I've been able to come up with is the following:

Data has a power system composed of three elements: 1) advanced storage batteries, 2) a small nuclear battery system (using radioisotope decay and thermocouples to generate electricity), and 3) a bioreactor.

Thus, Data normally relies on storage battery output, and may be able to plug directly into ship's power for a boost. The low-output nuclear battery system can recharge the standard storage batteries, but that obviouly requires Data to minimize activity over long stretches while charging, so as to be able to build up any kind of useful charge. The bioreactor, finally, allows Data to consume foods and ... process them convincingly.

The bioreactor would explain how Data's sister/mother, the android Dr. Soong created to replace his wife, could masquerade convincingly as human without having to occasionally plug into an electrical outlet. Since Soong apparently produced all his androids with near-identical inner workings, and Data was supposed to be able to interact with humans in "social" situations (thus the sex programming), I'd say the presence of a bioreactor unit in Data's gizzard is likely. Data would not need to eat, but he could if necessary and could derive energy from the food (as opposed to politely turning aside after a state banquet and barfing up a bucket full of neatly mashed food paste).
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LOL mental image of Data politely barfing!
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Data's power cells constantly recharging themselves may be due to tapping energy present in subspace, realspace, or whatever.

Today, we can make a battery that constantly "recharges itself" by tapping into radio waves which are everywhere.
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