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Captain Zod wrote:
XaLEv wrote: Does Tatooine have two suns?


No. The other "sun" is blue in TPM. You can't have a yellow/blue binary system with live. It's some weird thing.
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What about all other references to the Galaxy?

And what about the EU? There's more in there.
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Anyways, since I already proved that 20 ships can do something the Death Star can't, it doesn't matter if the Empire has 2 billion ships.
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Captain Zod wrote:Solo galaxy quote is hyperbole. And the Empire is only 1 system. Maybe 2.
Now wait a second! I might be a Trek fan, but that sounds ridiculous. *TWo* systems in the Empire? If hyperdrive is about as fast as warp drive, then the Empire should contain at leats 100, maybe 2-300 systems.
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Stormbringer wrote:Then how did they get from Coruscant (near the center of the Galaxy) to Kamino or Tatooine or Naboo or Geonosis or Endor or Yavin. People have all made those trips. All are in the Outer Rim. How if they go a measly 1.5c can they do that? And it's a canon, indisputable fact that they did do this.
SW must be using a different factoring for trans-light speed to get those distances.
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EmperorMing wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Then how did they get from Coruscant (near the center of the Galaxy) to Kamino or Tatooine or Naboo or Geonosis or Endor or Yavin. People have all made those trips. All are in the Outer Rim. How if they go a measly 1.5c can they do that? And it's a canon, indisputable fact that they did do this.
SW must be using a different factoring for trans-light speed to get those distances.
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Captain Zod wrote:
And the Empire is only 1 system. Maybe 2.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tec ... on/Map.jpg

One system? yeah right!

Dwarf galaxy? Not according to the SW encyclopidia which puts it at about 20000 - 200000 Light years larger than the Milky Way.
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Captain Zod wrote:Anyways, since I already proved that 20 ships can do something the Death Star can't, it doesn't matter if the Empire has 2 billion ships.
You have proved nothing.

You also know nothing about warfare if you are making claims like that.

Quantity has beaten quality many times in history...
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2000AD wrote:
Captain Zod wrote:
And the Empire is only 1 system. Maybe 2.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tec ... on/Map.jpg

One system? yeah right!

Dwarf galaxy? Not according to the SW encyclopidia which puts it at about 20000 - 200000 Light years larger than the Milky Way.
The SW Galaxy is 120,000 of their lightyears, which are about 5% longer than ours.
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2000AD wrote:Dwarf galaxy? Not according to the SW encyclopidia which puts it at about 20000 - 200000 Light years larger than the Milky Way.
I didn't know Wars had an encyclopedia. Is it anything like the Star Trek encyclopedia? I might go out and get it, since it seems to be referred to a lot. That is, if it's worth it.
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Captain Zod wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:

But his 1.5c quote and 1000 ships quotes are completly acceptable?



Okay they're hyperbole. 100 ships and 1c then.



GAH! So anything Solo says that helps you is right, everything else is wrong?




HYPERBOLE.



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Alright, I concede that Hyperdrive may be a few 100 c, and the Empire may have a few dozen systems. But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
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Captain Zod wrote:Alright, I concede that Hyperdrive may be a few 100 c, and the Empire may have a few dozen systems. But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
Interesting, and amusing at the same time. Darkstar, that's you isn't it?
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Captain Zod wrote:Alright, I concede that Hyperdrive may be a few 100 c, and the Empire may have a few dozen systems. But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
Better concede a whole lot more. And they have more than 500 ships and "primitive laser".

They are not lasers. Period.
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Captain Zod wrote:Anyways, since I already proved that 20 ships can do something the Death Star can't, it doesn't matter if the Empire has 2 billion ships.
you haven't proved anything. you said that Darkstar had proved it, are you darkstar? I think not, not even he was this stupid. Also he hasn't proved a goddam thing. he uses a theory that relies on Ald. having no shield (which it did) and contains some rather suspect things, plus it has been ripped apart numerous times and is being ripped apart again by wong in a debate right now!

And snce this is my last post for the night I leave you with this:
At the height of it's power the Empire controlled 3/4 of a galaxy larger than our own.
At the height of it's power the Federation controlled a fraction of a quarter of a galaxy. (or didn't you know what the quadrant in Alpha quadrant meant?)
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jegs2 wrote:
Captain Zod wrote:Alright, I concede that Hyperdrive may be a few 100 c, and the Empire may have a few dozen systems. But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
Interesting, and amusing at the same time. Darkstar, that's you isn't it?



Ip checked. he ain't DS. Probably another stupid trekkie who couldn't be bothered to check Mike's site.
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Hyper drive is several million c.

There are at least 25,000 Star Destroyers.

SW "lasers" are not lasers.
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jegs2 wrote:
Captain Zod wrote:Alright, I concede that Hyperdrive may be a few 100 c, and the Empire may have a few dozen systems. But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
Interesting, and amusing at the same time. Darkstar, that's you isn't it?
If it is, he's posting from somewhere else.

From what I have seen of his posting style, I don't think it is.
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Captain Zod wrote:But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
ytou ignored my rebuttal to your laser theory.

CONCESSION ACCEPTED! i've always wnated to say that

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Who's this "Darkstar" you guys tkeep talking about/
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2000AD wrote:
Captain Zod wrote:But they still only have 500 ships and primitive lasers.
ytou ignored my rebuttal to your laser theory.

CONCESSION ACCEPTED! i've always wnated to say that

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In answer to the question of encyclopedias on SW, yes there are many. The latest was the visual one for AOTC. Go to your local bookstore and pick one up -- you'll find it's a wise investment before entering debates such as these. It addresses such issues as the power and nature of turbolasers, the speed and range of hyperdrive systems, and a plethera of other valuable details about the SW galaxy.
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Thanx, Ill remember that. Still, 200 gigatons sounds kind of stupid.
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PROMETHEUS wrote:Who's this "Darkstar" you guys tkeep talking about/
Someone with his head *way* up his biscuit. Check out the FUQ site for more info.

At the very least you have stated that you will look into the tech manual; alot more than what some others have done.
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Andrew Joshua Talon wrote:Man... Okay Captain, how about this: Since you support the idea that the Federation can defeat the Empire (which I share) why don't you stop arguing old ideas (old here, at any rate) and help us Trekkies by coming up with ways the Federation could adapt and advance to give it the ability to stand up to the Empire?

Also, as to Prommie's argument about fleet numbers: Apparently, the Feds used over 500 ships against the Borg in 2373 (ST:FC) and lost about 300 of them. In addition, they apparently lost about a thousand vessels in the Dominion War during the first THREE MONTHS alone befire the tide turned.

Where'd you pull these numbers out of?!


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