Battle of the Outrageous Claims

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Hey Admiral Stupid, this is about SW vs. ST, not C&C versus RL.

[Isolder74]

C&C Tiberian Sun.

What has that to do with Star Wars vs Star Trek?

[Admiral Johnason]

Hey Admiral Stupid, this is about SW vs. ST, not C&C versus RL.

Did you even look below it? Jeez, no one ever reads the whole thing anymore.

[Admiral Johnason]

C&C Tiberian Sun.

What has that to do with Star Wars vs Star Trek?

It was a joke. There was no thread in HAB right now for that to fit into a discussion and This was about outragious claims, even if from two different franchies.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

So you included a SW/ST claim with it. What's your point?

[Admiral Johnason]

So you included a SW/ST claim with it. What's your point?

There is no current thread in HAB to put it and this is called "Outragious Claims."

[SirNitram]

So you included a SW/ST claim with it. What's your point?

There is no current thread in HAB to put it and this is called "Outragious Claims."

Off topic for this forum. Do you know that thread hijacking is frowned upon?

[Admiral Johnason]

So you included a SW/ST claim with it. What's your point?

There is no current thread in HAB to put it and this is called "Outragious Claims."

Off topic for this forum. Do you know that thread hijacking is frowned upon?

Sorry then. I'll put it back on track.

Shuttles are much better than TIEs because they have sheilds and are better armed because they have more phasers.

[Equinox2003]

Silly claim for a Trek victory:

The Ferengi alliance could beat the Empire. This is because the Grand
Nagus is so rich he could simply buy an ISD, then have others replicated
and eventualy creating a fleet bigger than the Empire. He would then
crush the Empire and the AQ, leaving the Ferengi in charge.

[SirNitram]

Originally posted to ASVS 2002-06-17

Many rabid Trekkies have been waving their useless fallacies around after the
premeire of Attack Of The Clones, but I have come forth with undeniable sources
for vastly superior Star Wars power. These arguments are irrefutable, as many
will see once they are posted.

Many Trekkies claim the 'asteroids' in Empire Strikes Back weren't vaporized,
but merely shattered. This is preposterous. I have undeniable *canon* proof
they weren't even asteroids, but chunks of free-floating degenerate Neutronium,
placing a *lower-limit* on Turbolaser firepower in the low-mid Zettaton range,
if not much, much higher! The fact that Turbolasers only pock the hulls of
other Star Wars ships *categoricall* proves superior armor.

Other Trekkies, jealous of Star Wars undeniable superiority in both a Vs.
battle and the box office, point to the 'asteroid' crashing through the bridge
of a Star Destroyer. Of course, since the 'asteroids' are free-floating
neutronium, this eliminates part of the fallacy immediately! In addition, I
have unearthed *canon* proof this scene was 'slo-mo', so viewers could more
easily track the chase, which, in fact, was conducted at .9c! The neutronium
chunk impacted the ISD bridge at relatvisitic speeds, imparting immense
energies normally reserved for 'conservative' Death Star estimates. This
*categorically* proves the 'multi-megaton' comment in the novelization false,
despite Trekkies trying to lower the true, glorious power of Star Wars.

Once we see this new evidence, it becomes clear that a Star Wars ship must
endure massive amounts of power from their Zettaton light guns and the heavy
guns which, at a minimum, must be 125x more powerful. The Trek Technical
Manual, some Trekkies froth, claims 64 Megatons for their torpedos. This is
*plainly* a fallacy, as we see torpedos have no more power than a small stick
of dynamite! From this, we can *plainly* see that a Trek starship is easy prey
for a Real World defense force, let alone Star Wars!

Some Trekkies claim that the power to destroy one ship makes their torpedos
more powerful, but this is simple lies. Their ships are weak, puny things,
unable to stop mere iron-nickel asteroids from impacting with their hulls..
They would be torn apart in the fractional Cee chase through the neutronium
fields in ESB!

Claims of 'Warp Strafing' and 'Transporter Bombing' are plainly the last
attempts of pathetic Trekkies. After all, the subspace sensors of an Imperial
Star Destroyer *canonically* disrupt all subspace for lightyears out,
preventing a Star Trek ship from even getting close enough to detect the
Imperial ship, while still being in range of the Wars ships multi-lightyear
range heavy guns(Proved indesputably in Star By Star).

Plainly, it can be seen that Trekkies have diseased this forum with desperate
attempts to tarnish the true magnitude of Star Wars. Even if Trek technology
was somehow -comparable- to Star Wars power, the Rebels, an underequipped
little uprising group would obviously conquer their communist regime, just as
they toppled Palpatine's despotic Empire. No Trek supporter has ever disproved
any of this, and they are idiots and retards if they think they will ever prove
Trek ships stand a chance against Wars handguns, let alone warships. Thanks.

[Howedar]

C&C Tiberian Sun.

What has that to do with Star Wars vs Star Trek?

Nothing, of course.

[thecreech]

Any claim about the borg...

They can adapt to anything

Phasers

Set it on wide beam and vaporize everything in sight

[YT300000]

Originally posted to ASVS 2002-06-17

Many rabid Trekkies have been waving their useless fallacies around after the
premeire of Attack Of The Clones, but I have come forth with undeniable sources
for vastly superior Star Wars power. These arguments are irrefutable, as many
will see once they are posted.

Many Trekkies claim the 'asteroids' in Empire Strikes Back weren't vaporized,
but merely shattered. This is preposterous. I have undeniable *canon* proof
they weren't even asteroids, but chunks of free-floating degenerate Neutronium,
placing a *lower-limit* on Turbolaser firepower in the low-mid Zettaton range,
if not much, much higher! The fact that Turbolasers only pock the hulls of
other Star Wars ships *categoricall* proves superior armor.

Other Trekkies, jealous of Star Wars undeniable superiority in both a Vs.
battle and the box office, point to the 'asteroid' crashing through the bridge
of a Star Destroyer. Of course, since the 'asteroids' are free-floating
neutronium, this eliminates part of the fallacy immediately! In addition, I
have unearthed *canon* proof this scene was 'slo-mo', so viewers could more
easily track the chase, which, in fact, was conducted at .9c! The neutronium
chunk impacted the ISD bridge at relatvisitic speeds, imparting immense
energies normally reserved for 'conservative' Death Star estimates. This
*categorically* proves the 'multi-megaton' comment in the novelization false,
despite Trekkies trying to lower the true, glorious power of Star Wars.

Once we see this new evidence, it becomes clear that a Star Wars ship must
endure massive amounts of power from their Zettaton light guns and the heavy
guns which, at a minimum, must be 125x more powerful. The Trek Technical
Manual, some Trekkies froth, claims 64 Megatons for their torpedos. This is
*plainly* a fallacy, as we see torpedos have no more power than a small stick
of dynamite! From this, we can *plainly* see that a Trek starship is easy prey
for a Real World defense force, let alone Star Wars!

Some Trekkies claim that the power to destroy one ship makes their torpedos
more powerful, but this is simple lies. Their ships are weak, puny things,
unable to stop mere iron-nickel asteroids from impacting with their hulls..
They would be torn apart in the fractional Cee chase through the neutronium
fields in ESB!

Claims of 'Warp Strafing' and 'Transporter Bombing' are plainly the last
attempts of pathetic Trekkies. After all, the subspace sensors of an Imperial
Star Destroyer *canonically* disrupt all subspace for lightyears out,
preventing a Star Trek ship from even getting close enough to detect the
Imperial ship, while still being in range of the Wars ships multi-lightyear
range heavy guns(Proved indesputably in Star By Star).

Plainly, it can be seen that Trekkies have diseased this forum with desperate
attempts to tarnish the true magnitude of Star Wars. Even if Trek technology
was somehow -comparable- to Star Wars power, the Rebels, an underequipped
little uprising group would obviously conquer their communist regime, just as
they toppled Palpatine's despotic Empire. No Trek supporter has ever disproved
any of this, and they are idiots and retards if they think they will ever prove
Trek ships stand a chance against Wars handguns, let alone warships. Thanks.

Sounds like DarkStar.

[Mad]

Sounds like DarkStar.

Timothy Jones, actually.

[Mitth`raw`nuruodo]

I can't claim this as mine, but:

DecepticonScourge
Wesley could win in any fight cuz he went and saw a dead body by the railroad tracks

[XaLEv]

I can't claim this as mine, but:

Heh, that thread was fun:

Star War's galaxy is way smaller.....that is why any attempt to measure the speed is not accurate.

The size of Star War's galaxy is probably the size of galaxy on Orion's Belt in Men in Black. That is why their ships appear to be able to travel much faster.

[NecronLord]

Force Users >= Q.

"Proof": The Death Star is the greatest power in the universe. But it is nothing compared to the power of the Force. The only reason Jedi aren't juggling planets and snuffing out stars is because the Sith cancel out their powers almost completely. Balance, get it? The Light and Dark balance, so there's only a little left over. So if all the Sith or all the Jedi ever died, the others would be as powerful (or more!) than Q.

Actually, if you take the example of the abilitys from the Valley of the Jedi, and compare it to Q weapons, one needs a weapon to create a supernova, the other does it in a whisper

[Darth Yoshi]

I can't claim this as mine, but:

DecepticonScourge
Wesley could win in any fight cuz he went and saw a dead body by the railroad tracks

What was he smoking?

[Admiral Johnason]

Force Users >= Q.

"Proof": The Death Star is the greatest power in the universe. But it is nothing compared to the power of the Force. The only reason Jedi aren't juggling planets and snuffing out stars is because the Sith cancel out their powers almost completely. Balance, get it? The Light and Dark balance, so there's only a little left over. So if all the Sith or all the Jedi ever died, the others would be as powerful (or more!) than Q.

Actually, if you take the example of the abilitys from the Valley of the Jedi, and compare it to Q weapons, one needs a weapon to create a supernova, the other does it in a whisper

Actually, Sith can cause supernovas.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Actually, Sith can cause supernovas.

There's a technological trick involved. Aleema Keto, a mere Sith acolyte was able to trigger the device herself.

[Tasoth]

ST ships tend to suffer warp core breaches when they're kicked, so te floating junk from the ISDs can take out the entirity of the federation.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Data: They appear to be discarding material
Riker: What they haven't discovered Full Universal Recycling?
Wesley: Mmm, this soylent green from the replicator is good...

[YT300000]

Actually, Sith can cause supernovas.

There's a technological trick involved. Aleema Keto, a mere Sith acolyte was able to trigger the device herself.

Naga Sadow could do two stars simultaneously, by snapping his fingers.

[YT300000]

Naga Sadow could do two stars simultaneously, by snapping his fingers.

Thats not a claim. It happened.

[Solauren]

The Federation having more working Genesis Devices
The Federation able to destroy Black Holes
The Federation able to make stable wormholes

The Emperor being able to kill everyone on a planet in a thought without a force storm or superweapon.