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We could try the "Paul Kritchner" fate for him, but I seriously doubt that there would be anything to eat, nor do I think that any of the pigs in that wonderful movie would want anything to do with him. Of course the good doctor Lecter would absolutly LOVE Mr. Anderson, as an Entr'e....
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I managed to get through tyhe first two of his posts, and a chunk into the third before saying "why bother?" All I have to do is describe his premise to one of my friends who has never seen the debating sites and his immediate response is "Bullshit" Right now, I am just wondering how the Wall of Ignorance can exist on a planetary surface without sucking in the planet due to its enormous density.
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Maybe DS will dying of starvation or dehydration after sitting up night after night trying to find ways to debunk Mike's obviously flawless rebuttals.

Or maybe his bowels will explode from not going to the bathroom while doing this.

At very least, we can rest assured that if this thing keeps going at the rate it has been, DS will get carpal tunnel bad, and will never be able to type again. Thus, he's neutralized.
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Neko_Oni wrote:How anyone could read Darkstar's debate without being up to their eyeballs in caffine is beyond me
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DS whole Superlaser Argument DEPENDS on the fact that SW has no planetary shields.

So he simply denies that SW has planetary shields. He refuses to acknowldege, that if you have a theater shield covering a large part of a planet, that several of these could cover the whole planet.
That is kind of like denying that if you can cover 1m² of land with tarp , that you could cover 10m² of land with 10 tarps.

About the EU inclusion: He makes it a black and white thing. Either it is canon, or it isn't. He refuses to acknowldge that it would be possible that EU is not canon, but still counts. Thats what his whole argument dpends on.

That is my conclusion of DS's side of the debate.
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He also ignores the DS2 shield, with the ability to project shields like that, it's not hard to make a planetary shield
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Yeah, I've NEVER heard anyone claim that a SW planetary shield has to be generated by a single installation.
What you need is a shield that covers a large geographical area and can withstand a heavy bombardment without requiring any unusual technology or being unfeasably resource hungry.

The Hoth and Endor shields easily prove that SW technology has the potential to build planetary shields, and when combined with the canon quotes regarding the defences of Alderaan, it requires someone with a very special level of brain disfunction to discard the idea out of hand.
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Akm72 wrote:Yeah, I've NEVER heard anyone claim that a SW planetary shield has to be generated by a single installation.
What you need is a shield that covers a large geographical area and can withstand a heavy bombardment without requiring any unusual technology or being unfeasably resource hungry.

The Hoth and Endor shields easily prove that SW technology has the potential to build planetary shields, and when combined with the canon quotes regarding the defences of Alderaan, it requires someone with a very special level of brain disfunction to discard the idea out of hand.
ROTJ would show it could be done with one or two installations really.
Though many linked ones is probably more efficient.
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More efficient and more Redundancy in the case of damage/sabotage/ routine maintenance cycles.
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Is DarkTard's latest blathering up on Google or whatever yet? Linkage?
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After a while I think we all wonder why.

I say Wong is doing it to finally crush the guy and humilate the fool for having the audacity of trying to lure him into a debate where he(DS) has everything in his favor since it's shown, that gerbils have more intelligence.

Truly I'm astounded how much DS actually denies, it's like watching some bizarre comedy skit. Maybe Wong just gets a good laugh, puts down a few poiginant reponses and waits till dumbass replies.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:
Akm72 wrote:Yeah, I've NEVER heard anyone claim that a SW planetary shield has to be generated by a single installation.
What you need is a shield that covers a large geographical area and can withstand a heavy bombardment without requiring any unusual technology or being unfeasably resource hungry.

The Hoth and Endor shields easily prove that SW technology has the potential to build planetary shields, and when combined with the canon quotes regarding the defences of Alderaan, it requires someone with a very special level of brain disfunction to discard the idea out of hand.
ROTJ would show it could be done with one or two installations really.
Though many linked ones is probably more efficient.
The ROTJ shield was clearly shown to only be covering a tiny area of Endor's surface.
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Honestly I stopped reading after DS second rebuttle (and I use the term loosely). I just read the summary at the bottom. This debate doesn't have Mike's usual panache (spell?), mainly because his hands are tied by DS escape clause (TM).

Mike if you read this, I believe in you bud, but I can't believe you manage to force yourself into replying time after time. I am in awe.
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Akm72 wrote:Yeah, I've NEVER heard anyone claim that a SW planetary shield has to be generated by a single installation.
What you need is a shield that covers a large geographical area and can withstand a heavy bombardment without requiring any unusual technology or being unfeasably resource hungry.

The Hoth and Endor shields easily prove that SW technology has the potential to build planetary shields, and when combined with the canon quotes regarding the defences of Alderaan, it requires someone with a very special level of brain disfunction to discard the idea out of hand.
Incidentally, the numerous Gungan shields show clearly that theatre shields generated from several locations can be interlinked.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:
Akm72 wrote:Yeah, I've NEVER heard anyone claim that a SW planetary shield has to be generated by a single installation.
What you need is a shield that covers a large geographical area and can withstand a heavy bombardment without requiring any unusual technology or being unfeasably resource hungry.

The Hoth and Endor shields easily prove that SW technology has the potential to build planetary shields, and when combined with the canon quotes regarding the defences of Alderaan, it requires someone with a very special level of brain disfunction to discard the idea out of hand.
ROTJ would show it could be done with one or two installations really.
Though many linked ones is probably more efficient.
The ROTJ shield was clearly shown to only be covering a tiny area of Endor's surface.
However the Tyderium was unable to descend until the shield was switched off, this suggests a signifcant amount of coverage. It is possible that the projection in the war room merely covered the shield projected around the DS rather than one around the planet since the latter would not be of concern to those attacking the station.
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Even if Darkstar was finally forced to admit that, yes, planetary shield technology did exist in TESB and ROTJ, he'd go on to argue that no such technology was exhibited in ANH and therefore didn't exist when Alderaan did the big firework.

At this point, I'd say that any rational, objective observer would grant the victory to Mike. Darkstar's points just ramble on and on, and the effort to parse sentence fragments smacks of sheer lunacy. DS has demonstrated himself to be an anal little twit who's obsessive love for a pet theory is bordering on insanity. He will go on to claim victory no matter what. But this is common with the delusional, is it not?
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I would go beyond just insanity, and say severe Dissassociation, Hallucination, and borderline Schizophrenia.
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Just went to his website, I'm I the last to read this?
Magical Typing Bullshit wrote: He has now created a forum which pro-Trek posts are moved to where he and the other moderators "have free reign to add insulting comments to a troll's posts at will and undertake other actions which are normally frowned upon in the other forums", meaning they are finally doing openly to pro-Trek debater posts what they previously denied doing.
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What we should do is:
1- Go to StarWras.com
2- Go to ask the Jedi council
3- Ask "Where does the EU come into SW cannon/continunuity"

If we all do it thats at least 100 people all asking the same question. We repeat this each week that it is not answered. Sooner or later we'll get a response and then we can do a mass email of the link to Darkstar just to say" yah boo sucks, we were right all along"
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anarchistbunny wrote:Just went to his website, I'm I the last to read this?
Magical Typing Bullshit wrote: He has now created a forum which pro-Trek posts are moved to where he and the other moderators "have free reign to add insulting comments to a troll's posts at will and undertake other actions which are normally frowned upon in the other forums", meaning they are finally doing openly to pro-Trek debater posts what they previously denied doing.
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He actually had the gall to say this?
Does he lie for a living or something?
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Hasn't he noticed that most of the threads in the HoS are from EF, Azeron or WCOTC trolls?
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2000AD wrote:Hasn't he noticed that most of the threads in the HoS are from EF, Azeron or WCOTC trolls?
Like this matters to Mr. Liar.
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He's probably adding a section to his site right now about how he beat Mike Wong so badly Mike had to run away crying that he was unworthy of debating with him.
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I just took a look at his site and i can't find any reference to the debate. You think he's scared of showing he got his ass whupped, despite the fact it's already public knowledge?

anyway i just emailed him (from the site feedback bit) asking him where the link to the debate is. :D
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He is undoubtedly constructing massive pages full of nitpick attacks upon individual sentences or fragments of sentences taken out of context. He probably believes that people will actually want to slog their way through them and that they will all side with him once he tells them 100 times that he defeated my arguments.
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