Would you rather be a citizen Imps or the Feds?

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2004-12-22 04:41am

Empire. I was born in New Zealand; I don't want to get sent there for 'reeducation' by my enlightened Federation leaders.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-12-22 05:07am

Federation for me. I believe they dont know poverty and as long as I don't wear a red shirt i'm settled

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-12-22 12:45pm

The section called the Apotheosis of Palpatine on Publius' page will be illuminating.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-22 01:14pm

NecronLord wrote:I'm amused that anyone here thinks they could become an ISD captain. The Imperial Navy is rife with who-you-know connections and politiking, and even if this entire board signed up, going by the numbers, our chances of producing a captain aren't good.

they have a fuckload of ships and want people to work them. I think a motivated male could do it.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-12-22 04:10pm

i'll take the federation. i don't really find the idea of visits from palpatine's goons or stormtroopers in the middle of the night appealing. get me a job working on risa and i'd be pretty much set.

Admiral Bravo · Post by **Admiral Bravo** » 2004-12-22 05:58pm

I'd be a Imperial citiizen because as long as I dont support the rebels would be fine. I also like to own my own property unlike a certian group of communistic space hippies that I know of, and plus I could also command my own Star Destroyer if I join the Navy and dont screw up.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-12-22 06:09pm

Admiral Bravo wrote:I'd be a Imperial citiizen because as long as I dont support the rebels would be fine. I also like to own my own property unlike a certian group of communistic space hippies that I know of, and plus I could also command my own Star Destroyer if I join the Navy and dont screw up.

Um, read the EU. Life under Palpy ain't that good.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-12-22 06:29pm

Federation.

From the looks of it, give me a tricorder and I can conquer them within 10 years

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2004-12-22 06:48pm

I think I would rather join the Empire.

I know they're evil... but they're a good kinda' evil.

Their economy is capitalist so I can buy anything I want so long as I have the money, and since you can buy your own ship you can make a fortune when you retire from the Navy.

And no one messes with the Empire, except for those loser Rebels. And there’s not a lot of them around, so chances of getting blasted by one of those losers is pretty slim.

Federation... poor Federation.

They have no property or sense of ownership.

You can’t even buy baseball cards anymore.

You can get your butt fragged by any number of people who hate the Federation and when you want to retire, you get stuck in government housing or have to move to some god awful colony world that is sure to be bombed by people who don’t like Starfleet because Starfleet sucks.

And, if you do anything wrong, they send you to a penal colony to be brainwashed and sent back home as Captain Sisko’s personal luv toy, or if you get off light, they draft your ass and put you on a ship destined to be lost in Delta quadrant.

Starfleet is pointless. Federation is pointless. I choose the Empire.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-12-23 01:32am

BrandonBray wrote: You can get your butt fragged by any number of people who hate the Federation and when you want to retire, you get stuck in government housing or have to move to some god awful colony world that is sure to be bombed by people who don’t like Starfleet because Starfleet sucks.

What episode was this on?

Admiral Bravo · Post by **Admiral Bravo** » 2004-12-23 11:30am

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:
Admiral Bravo wrote:I'd be a Imperial citiizen because as long as I dont support the rebels would be fine. I also like to own my own property unlike a certian group of communistic space hippies that I know of, and plus I could also command my own Star Destroyer if I join the Navy and dont screw up.
Um, read the EU. Life under Palpy ain't that good.

Not neccesarly. From what I have read, including articles on Publius' website show that the sterotypical descriptions that we hear of the Empire are grossly exagerated. Like I said, as long as your not a criminal or support the rebels you wont get a stormtrooper squad come knocking at your door. Life for a average citizen living in the middle or inner rim was pretty good and the Empire pretty much left you alone if you followed the rules. Now if Palpy got his way...well then that would be a different story.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-23 01:17pm

he just wanted to tap lifeforce which we wouldnt be using and wouldnt be aware of, ja?

Im not worried.

mauldooku · Post by **mauldooku** » 2004-12-23 11:13pm

Federation, no question. While it has its downsides, it's far superior to living under a madman who is after what amounts to my soul.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-24 12:21am

does its loss affect you though?

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-12-24 12:38am

Okay, to all you guys "I'm going to be a SD captain!" or "buy my own A-wing," let's be a little realistic here. Odds are we'll all wind up with some menial job, and cower in fear the rebellion or Emperor's wrath doesn't come to our planet and summarily wipe out millions or billions in an impersonal nature.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-12-24 12:56am

Enforcer Talen wrote:does its loss affect you though?

Yes. You just don't know it.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-24 02:18pm

ignorance is bliss, neh?

and, the empire doesnt appear to be 1984 commune - its more akin to germany 1937, where there is real patritoism for der fuhrer.

as well, even peasant farmers can manage to buy interstellar ships - its not so out of place to dream of it. for sw, they seem to be the equivalent of cars.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-12-24 02:41pm

Name one poor farmer family in the Empire which owns its own interstellar vehicle.

Can't?

Probably because they cost hundreds of thousands of credits.

They're more like private jets than cars. Landspeeders are like cars.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-12-24 02:45pm

A used ship might cost 10-20k, plus fuel, maintenance and other costs. You'll probably need to pass some examination before being permitted to fly. This is a rather high barrier to entry for the poor, but I suspect the middle class could afford it.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2004-12-24 02:51pm

Personally, I'd much rather live in the federation. Someone with their head screwed on right in that situation and some brass balls will be able to get anything they want.

Design some decent ships, start some cults, make connections with some smart people and rip off the feddies, klingons, romulans, whoever.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-12-24 03:28pm

Probably because they cost hundreds of thousands of credits.

10,000 credits can "almost get a ship." Where is this "hundreds of thousands of credits" evidence?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-24 04:37pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Name one poor farmer family in the Empire which owns its own interstellar vehicle.

Can't?

Probably because they cost hundreds of thousands of credits.

They're more like private jets than cars. Landspeeders are like cars.

tatooine is awash with them. a used junk salesman sells engines for yachts.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-12-24 04:46pm

$100,000+ comes from the canon RPG.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-12-24 04:51pm

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:$100,000+ comes from the canon RPG.

But what type of starship is that?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-12-24 04:57pm

naught your basic yt1300, im sure.