What would the Empire really do with the ST universe?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-28 06:31pm

Pu-239 wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:It would, of course, strip the thing for resources and space. The technology is worthless, but the territory is extremely valuable.
Not neccessarily. The borg ressurecting nanoprobes, transporters, replicators, and holodecks would be useful. Warp also makes a good tactical drive.

Warp has never really demonstrated any uses beyond the conventional roles of a hyperdrive. Its "warp-strafing" tactic is clearly impossible, and it is only worthwhile for engaging other ships. The replicators and holodecks are already present in the Empire, and the nanoprobes and transporters, while interesting and somewhat useful, are not exactly going to be expensive for the Empiore to make. I reiterate my comment that the technology is not worth investment, but that the territory is very valuable.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-28 07:06pm

irishmick79 wrote:Sure, it's painfully obvious that the Star Trek battle fleets would be hopelessly outmatched by the Imperial armada. If the Imperials were able to stabalize a wormhole and maintain control of both ends, what possible interest would drive the Imperials to want to conquer the wilderness that would be the Star Trek galaxy?

Think about it. You control the only door leading into a vast wilderness that you can dominate easily through force. You could test the most outragously diabolical weapon scheme in this new territory without reprecussions in your home galaxy. If you keep security tight, nobody back in your home galaxy would know about it. So with such a huge opportunity for training and testing, why would you send your best men and weapons to conquer the galaxy? Wouldn't you simply want to use it as a big training camp?

The Empire would infiltrate the ST galaxy and subvert it.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-12-28 10:52pm

infiltrate seems too sneaky for the empire's tactics, to my mind.

blowing up hundreds of planets might be more likely.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-12-28 11:28pm

Somewhere in between. Like using an ISD too ravage the Galaxy, collect Trek forces and wipe out meager races.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-29 08:43am

Hmm... what if the Galactic Empire issues government contracts to colonize Trek Galaxy to corporate entities like Kuat Drive Yard or Xizor Transport System? Wouldn't it be more efficient that way? I mean, the whole Trek races is *hardly* a threat after all...

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-29 08:43am

Hmm... what if the Galactic Empire issues government contracts to colonize Trek Galaxy to corporate entities like Kuat Drive Yard or Xizor Transport System? Wouldn't it be more efficient that way? I mean, the whole Trek races is *hardly* a threat after all...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-29 09:58am

Cpt_Frank wrote:
NecronLord wrote:And then use the masses of slave labour to build new death stars uber ships of doom and assorted other nasties.
Hmm... slave labour seems to be largely obsolete in the SW galaxy since droids can do it both cheaper and faster. However when a small force is more or less stranded in the ST galaxy it may very well be an option.

I agree that in any society at a level advanced beyond our modern level slavery is obsolete. To quote Aristotle on the topic "so that shuttles would weave cloth or harps play music automatically, then master craftsmen would not need assistants, nor masters slaves."

Unfortunately hacks the like of KJA and B&B have failed to grasp this. Ref. The Wookie slaves in Darksaber & Jedi search and the Reman slaves in Nemesis.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-30 12:11am

I always think it's much ***harder*** for the Empire to colonize Trek galaxy than merely conquering it. I mean, the Empire has to BUILD EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH.

Almost everything in Trek galaxy is sub-standard compared to the Empire: Mining facilities... Cargo fleets... Factories... Communication networks... etc. Imagine 20th century United States goes back in time and conquers the Roman Empire.

(Sometimes after Imperial conquest on Trek galaxy)

Darth Vader: Commander, I believe there is solution to your cargo fleet shortage. Those captured Federeation ship can be converted to freighters to carry supplies to our mines in Delta Quadrant.

Logistic Officer: But milord, the Federation ship is pathetically slow! With their warp drive it needs 76 years to reach Delta Quadrant.

Darth Vader: 76 years????? <burst into laughter>

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-30 07:02am

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:I always think it's much ***harder*** for the Empire to colonize Trek galaxy than merely conquering it. I mean, the Empire has to BUILD EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH.

Almost everything in Trek galaxy is sub-standard compared to the Empire: Mining facilities... Cargo fleets... Factories... Communication networks... etc. Imagine 20th century United States goes back in time and conquers the Roman Empire.

(Sometimes after Imperial conquest on Trek galaxy)

Darth Vader: Commander, I believe there is solution to your cargo fleet shortage. Those captured Federeation ship can be converted to freighters to carry supplies to our mines in Delta Quadrant.

Logistic Officer: But milord, the Federation ship is pathetically slow! With their warp drive it needs 76 years to reach Delta Quadrant.

Darth Vader: 76 years????? <burst into laughter>

They'd need to use world devastators to build up a sufficient infastructure realistically. The majority of ST tech is, from the imerial perspective, shit.

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2002-12-30 10:34am

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Hmm... what if the Galactic Empire issues government contracts to colonize Trek Galaxy to corporate entities like Kuat Drive Yard or Xizor Transport System? Wouldn't it be more efficient that way? I mean, the whole Trek races is *hardly* a threat after all...

that's not a bad idea. Let the corporates use their own private forces to clean out the territory while they expand their operations. The companies pay the government for the rights to the territory, which could amount to a massive amount of revenue. The opportunity to build custom operations from scratch might convince companies that might otherwise not do business the empire to establish closer ties.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-30 11:02am

How long before the Orion's and The Ferengi have purchased systems authorities?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-12-31 09:14pm

They'd use it for storage or something.

Perhaps they would use it to further increase the size of their fleets, and find new resources and technology.

Or, they might auction parts of it off to private corporations, a certain amount of credits per cubic lightyear.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-31 09:26pm

Frankly I think those corporate forces would be nastier the the Trek verse then the Empire would be.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2002-12-31 09:39pm

The moment i read the question at the begining that old tune...
"It ain't paradise, put up a parking lot..."
Started playing in my head. I think they might just bulldoze the place and use it to park spare ships etc.....a great big cosmic car park....

Keevan.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-01 04:12am

One could just as easily ask what the 15th century Europeans would do with the technologically primitive Americas. There is a definite timelag before they become useful, but that doesn't rule out their potential utility.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-01 04:46am

Isn't it obvious? Emperor Palpatine wants a palace on Risa.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2003-01-02 05:15am

Darth Wong wrote:One could just as easily ask what the 15th century Europeans would do with the technologically primitive Americas. There is a definite timelag before they become useful, but that doesn't rule out their potential utility.

Just wonder how long it takes for Trek galaxy to be useful....

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-01-02 05:59am

It's a whole fricken' galaxy's worth of resources. Imagine what this could do to the Galactic (capitalized) economy...

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-01-02 09:58am

Hmm... what if the Galactic Empire issues government contracts to colonize Trek Galaxy to corporate entities like Kuat Drive Yard or Xizor Transport System? Wouldn't it be more efficient that way? I mean, the whole Trek races is *hardly* a threat after all...

Issuing contracts to private corporations would be a good idea once the Rebel Alliance is crushed.

As we've seen in RL, private corporations care more about profit than national security.
Just witness Hughes and Loral's actions in deals with China or GM, IBM, and Ford's actions during WW2.

I wouldn't put it past some of the companies to cut private deals with the Rebel Alliance in order to increase this quarter's profits.

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