wouldnt the Borg adapt to SW weaponry?

Darth_Nader · Post by **Darth_Nader** » 2002-12-27 07:13am

i am not a troll, i am going to a art school set up by Lucasarts to hopefully work for the company (i love Star Wars). You just cant say the enemy wins (ST) with no questions asked, so im breinging up possibilities (and i have finished reading the website).

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-27 08:54am

Darth_Nader wrote:i am not a troll, i am going to a art school set up by Lucasarts to hopefully work for the company (i love Star Wars). You just cant say the enemy wins (ST) with no questions asked, so im breinging up possibilities (and i have finished reading the website).

Who the hell said with no questions asked? The fucking site ANSWERS those questions, and certainly deals with moronic crap like the Borg can adapt to SW weapons

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-27 10:40am

1. Read the website...something I did long before joining the forum since at first glance Wong put a helluva a lot of work proving how the Empire would win, should at least see how.

2. Don't ask obvious shit(I don't care about the whole 'no stupid question'...after the few monthes the forum have been up and the shit Wong has in his Hatemail...you'd think he and other have answered the all important/pointless shit)

3. Don't get this delusional idea that somehow everyone here is going to be cordial and civil as you make an ass out of yourself.

4. When you present something be more than willing to back it up with something more than "It has to too because I say so!" You can get enough of that shit and more from enough people...don't need anymore.

5. Don't lie.
Enjoy your stay.

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2002-12-27 10:54am

I don't post here much as I prefer reading a lot of peoples ranting (yeah that happens a lot here and its funny!). But just because he did something stupid doesn't mean you have to be so mean about it, just tell him what to do rather than call him a troll.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-27 10:57am

Then use the search button.

Seriously after seeing the same argument repeated ad nausem, why the hell does someone THINK it hasn't been done before.

It's like going to Squaresoft board and asking FF7 or FF8 which is better, or going to a Dune Board and asking What if Some other planet had Melange...etc

Some shit has been done to death long and seriously use the search function before thinking somehow you're being innovative.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-27 11:22am

Imagine if you went to a Mac user's board and said "hey, why don't any of you guys realize you can't even run Windows programs on Mac?" Even if that comes from ignorance rather than malice, it's still trolling. Pretending that they have never thought of something which they have discussed a zillion times is an incitement to flame.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-27 01:05pm

Darth_Nader wrote:i am not a troll, i am going to a art school set up by Lucasarts to hopefully work for the company (i love Star Wars). You just cant say the enemy wins (ST) with no questions asked, so im breinging up possibilities (and i have finished reading the website).

You've finished reading the whole website?

Are you sure about that?

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-12-27 05:46pm

In one Voyager episode, the Borg adapted to weapons fire by changing the "shield geometry"... Whatever that meant. Still can't help against brute force though.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-12-27 06:16pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Darth_Nader wrote:those are some awful words that you have typed out, for such an intelligent man of yourself.
Ah, another idiot who thinks intelligent people should not swear. I've seen PhD nuclear physicists and chemists swear a blue streak. I've seen Masters degree engineers swear a blue streak. Your idiotic belief that intelligent people do not swear merely indicates that you are not familiar with intelligent people.

I'm fairly certain that this kind of attitude of "intelligent people don't use foul language" comes from people who hang around philosophers or are philosopher wannabes or think that all intelligent people should emulate philosophers. Instead of outrightly swearing, people should act smug and contemptuous.

The Apologist, for example, had a hard-on for useless philosophical drivel, and he ignored everyone's arguments to use our swearing to back out of the debate while telling himself that doing so allowed him to retain some semblance of dignity.

I just added another such moron who claimed to be a philosophy student to my hate mail page who E-mailed me with an obviously inflammatory E-mail (although he didn't swear; he just nitpicked with a smug smile on his face) and blamed me for making an "intelligent conversation" impossible because I had the audacity to swear at him. Oh, poor fucking wounded innocent.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-27 09:10pm

Darth Wong wrote:Yeah, we might have to hear someone say "he's not ignorant or lazy, he just doesn't know any better and can't be bothered to read" again ...

Or how about just telling him to read the site, or linking to the relevant topics, your site is fucking godamn huge and doesn't have a search function, it's not required of you, but it'd certanly be a nice gesture, and it might not alienate possible allies, I found your whole capslock post with huge letters to be hopelessly uneccesary and god knows I've been doing my fair share of flaming in my days and been said to have too short a fuse.

And yeah, this is precisly the kind of post you speak so condescendingly off, well I'm so sorry then that I feel it's a bad tactical decision(not to mention uneccesary) to get so fucking nasty without being sure it's a troll or not.

And why is it people seem to polarize these issues too? Either you're supposed to swear like a sailor or act like an asshole without actually swearing, like DarkStar.
I don't see the requirement for either.

Personally, I'd reccomend you create a generic post you can save and then post in these kind of situations.

Imagine if you went to a Mac user's board and said "hey, why don't any of you guys realize you can't even run Windows programs on Mac?" Even if that comes from ignorance rather than malice, it's still trolling. Pretending that they have never thought of something which they have discussed a zillion times is an incitement to flame

I don't agree, I think malice is a requirement for trolling, since ignorance doesn't preclude a well meaning intention or just curiousness.

Even a bit of scolding might be warranted but your post, wayyy over the line, where you pissed previously due to some RL events or something?

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2002-12-28 12:36am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Yeah, we might have to hear someone say "he's not ignorant or lazy, he just doesn't know any better and can't be bothered to read" again ...
Or how about just telling him to read the site, or linking to the relevant topics, your site is fucking godamn huge and doesn't have a search function,

Someone might have answered more gently if he'd asked whether or not the issue had been addressed. Maybe not even then, though, since a simple forum search using "borg" AND "adaptation" as keywords would have answered that question (I just checked this, actually).

But instead of searching the forum or asking if it had been discussed, he simply assumed that everyone here was a retard who'd overlooked what he apparently assumed was a damning argument in an Emp vs. Borg fight. Dick flips shit, dick gets hit.

-- Joe Momma

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-28 02:39am

His Divine Shadow wrote:I don't agree, I think malice is a requirement for trolling, since ignorance doesn't preclude a well meaning intention or just curiousness.

Malice is impossible to determine, since it requires knowledge of intent. All we can determine is that some asshole waltzes onto the board, asks "why can't everyone remember ..." some bullshit we've dealt with a million times before, and then acts all hurt when he gets flamed. If he asked "What about Borg adaptation", we might give him a chance. But he gave attitude, and he got attitude.

Even a bit of scolding might be warranted but your post, wayyy over the line, where you pissed previously due to some RL events or something?

I don't recall giving you the authority to decide where that line is for this board.

Darth_Nader · Post by **Darth_Nader** » 2002-12-28 03:46am

LOL¿

daonesith · Post by **daonesith** » 2002-12-28 04:01am

sigh another lame ass SW vs ST thread

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-28 04:08am

(sigh) another lame-ass newbie

Darth_Nader · Post by **Darth_Nader** » 2002-12-28 04:12am

i geuss i will have to learn from my mistakes and use more presice terms. And make my sentencing more understandable.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-12-28 04:24am

Well I think, Mr. Nader you may redeem yourself yet. By the way *arms himself with RPP-Rocket Propelled Poke* POKE!!!!!!

But as for Mr. daonesith, I don't see a bright future for you.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-28 05:20am

daonesith wrote:sigh another lame ass SW vs ST thread

Why the fuck are you here then? Did you not notice that the subject of this particular forum is ST vs. SW?!?!??!?!

Do you realize how stupid that statement is?

"OMG not another webpage! *Clicks hyperlink* argh another one!!!"

The Enterpriser · Post by **The Enterpriser** » 2002-12-28 05:40am

Funny thing is that I never thought that Borg could adapt forever, even if they could they couldn't just make the power of (any) weapons be worthless, that power has to go somewhere, so even if the Imperials get Borg which adapt to their turbolaser, it's uselsss, the energy will probably be routed to Borg ship systems and when that happens BOOM! I mean how much power can the Borg take before something blows up?

We've seen this happen in Q Who, so it's logical to assume that will happen as well.

End game: Borg are losers

Surprise!

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-28 05:42am

Not only Q Who, but also they couldn't withstand Species 8472 weaponry either- even after five months of battle.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2002-12-28 05:46am

Vympel wrote:Not only Q Who, but also they couldn't withstand Species 8472 weaponry either- even after five months of battle.

It did seem as thought they were adapting. S8472 weapons weren't doing as much damage as they first did in the opening scene.

The Enterpriser · Post by **The Enterpriser** » 2002-12-28 05:51am

Any place where 8472 concentrated firepower? It would be interesting to see how Borg cubes/ships get overloaded even with adaptive defenses.

On the other hand, you need MASSIVE firepower to defeat the Borg in an overload type win, so I guess only the Imperials can provide it, not even Species 8472 can do this I think...

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-28 06:19am

How about borg cube vs. the Ion Cannon's on a Y-wing?

After all of the linked systems of the borg, would they be vulnerable to the feed back from the energy disrupting Ion Cannons?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-28 12:39pm

More than most species.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-12-28 01:08pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:How about borg cube vs. the Ion Cannon's on a Y-wing?

After all of the linked systems of the borg, would they be vulnerable to the feed back from the energy disrupting Ion Cannons?

Well the Ion Cannons on the Y-Wing seem more of an afterthought that are primarily used only when a rear seater is present. Now CapShip grade Ion Cannons could do wonders against about everyone since we have the distinct trend of vulnerability to charged particles.