How much would a GCS be worth in SW-verse?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-05-06 06:59am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:You should add the liscensing fees for all the literature and media contained in the main computer. You could probably get a pretty penny from the Star Wars Universe's "Hollywood" if you managed to extract it all.

The media would be in english so no one would understand it. A hefty amount work would need to be done to dub them.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-05-08 02:29am

he disruptor rifle in JO and JA is not an accurate representation of what the weapon actually is, which is essentially a short-range, extremely powerful blaster. Never use game mechanics to argue a point, as the only part of a game which can even be considered a part of the SW universe it the story. For example, they couldn't even depict the Merr-Sonn PLX-2M or the Golan FC-1 correctly, and for some reason they're obsessed with making bowcaster bolts green in the JK games.

Granted, it also portrays BlasTech DL-44's as firing yellow shots (in JA), though one could suspect a modified gun.

In JK1 and MotS, the "Tusken Crossbow" is a modified Bowcastor for use by Tuskens on Sullon and other planets. It has different weapon characteristics and can be fired by non-Wookies. JK2 and JA just called it the "Wookie Bowcastor" without mentioning the modifications (other than being able to be fired by non-Wookies) but it's probably safe to assume it's the same type of thing.

As to the Disruptor rifle, I haven't read the "original EU sources" it's mentioned in, but in the Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology, the sketches and description closely match the functionality of the weapon in-game.

This "it's just a hand blaster that's really strong" thing doesn't come out of that text for me.

Otherwise I agree, game mechanics don't really apply in the majority of cases (unless it's from the RPG's and lazy franchise writers copy it, as they are prone to do apparently).

The Seeker drone in JK2/JA is actually a Remote (different animal) and the "laser trap" is a mine. Nobody's perfect. ; )

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-05-08 02:32am

PS: We know "beam-type" blasters are used as of AOTC (which came out a couple of months after Jedi Outcast) mounted on aircraft vehicles. This could be an application of that same technology on an infantry level scale.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-05-08 02:38am

I noticed in star wars that most battles are fought in an "En Masse" style march-forward and blast away frontal assault. Imagin if the TF at Geonosis was not required to use the spheres to send down their droid forces (I know that much of the force was already there, but still.....) imagine how things would have changed had transporter tech been available to the TF (Given the empire's cloneophobia later on) sending droids down to a planet would have been infinitely quicker and easier....

Wonder how that would have changed Naboo as well if the logistics were simplified by orders of magnitude.

'Course, I'm fairly drunk now, and probably will not remember writing this in the morning, so.....anyway....just a thought.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-05-08 03:08am

evilcat4000 wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:You should add the liscensing fees for all the literature and media contained in the main computer. You could probably get a pretty penny from the Star Wars Universe's "Hollywood" if you managed to extract it all.
The media would be in english so no one would understand it. A hefty amount work would need to be done to dub them.

Erm, I thought the Humans, and many other species, in the Star Wars universe spoke/wrote in English?

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2004-05-08 03:26am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote: Erm, I thought the Humans, and many other species, in the Star Wars universe spoke/wrote in English?

Not familiar with Arubesh, I take it.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-05-08 08:58am

Well, we know Aurabesh isn't exactly the same thing, remember the text in ROTJ came up as gibberish...

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2004-05-08 10:24pm

Kurgan wrote:Well, we know Aurabesh isn't exactly the same thing, remember the text in ROTJ came up as gibberish...

That's irrelevant. Arubesh is the name of the lettering, both the films' and WEG's format.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-05-09 12:41am

Fine, so it's an unknown language (which the EU calls "Basic") with the Aurabesh alphabet.

Sort of like how many earth languages use the same (or similar) alphabets I suppose.

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-05-09 03:01am

A GCS in the Star Wars galaxy would simply be priceless. The capabilities aren't important. It'll be the only extra-galactic contact in all history.

It'd be like if an alien (sea) ship that was the technical equivalent of an old Ironclad washed up. Who cares what technologies you can salvage? Not only does it confirm extraterrestrial life, it confirms intelligent extraterrestrial life with a somewhat comparable technology level. That's bigger than huge. You just can't put a cash value on that.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-05-09 07:55am

Well, technically they have made contact with other galaxies (reference: AOTC, IG Banking clan, the star charts Obi-Wan looks at, etc).

But you do have a point, this would be the first proof of extra-galactic HUMANS (assuming the computers are intact they'd find all the evidence they needed).

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-09 01:29pm

Actually, there is the possibility that the metals of the hull might have superior properties then some more common place materials in the SW verse, so studying them could provide a boon to industry.

Thats a lot of mights and coulds though. And even then you'd need to mine some stuff in Federation space since some of the metals are unknown to SW.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-09 01:35pm

PrinceofLowLight wrote:A GCS in the Star Wars galaxy would simply be priceless. The capabilities aren't important. It'll be the only extra-galactic contact in all history.

Not very familiar with the EU, eh?

Jaepheth · Post by **Jaepheth** » 2004-05-09 03:59pm

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:You should add the liscensing fees for all the literature and media contained in the main computer. You could probably get a pretty penny from the Star Wars Universe's "Hollywood" if you managed to extract it all.

Not likely, the best thing in there would just be a historical documentary

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-05-09 05:39pm

Ender wrote:
PrinceofLowLight wrote:A GCS in the Star Wars galaxy would simply be priceless. The capabilities aren't important. It'll be the only extra-galactic contact in all history.
Not very familiar with the EU, eh?

Erhm, not really. Only read the Thrawn trilogy and Crimson Empire. Did I just neglect to think about something positively ginormous?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-09 05:42pm

PrinceofLowLight wrote:
Ender wrote:
PrinceofLowLight wrote:A GCS in the Star Wars galaxy would simply be priceless. The capabilities aren't important. It'll be the only extra-galactic contact in all history.
Not very familiar with the EU, eh?
Erhm, not really. Only read the Thrawn trilogy and Crimson Empire. Did I just neglect to think about something positively ginormous?

using your former analogy the only thing a GCS would confirm is that there's life elsewhere in the universe. after spending some time analyzing the GCS, the technicians giving it the look over would likely conclude that it came from a primitive space faring civilization and salvage anything of interest, which wouldn't likely be much.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-05-09 05:55pm

evilcat4000 wrote:The media would be in english so no one would understand it. A hefty amount work would need to be done to dub them.

The universal translator should be able to fix that. Which brings up another question, are there universal translators or equivalent devices in SW universe?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-09 05:57pm

Sir Sirius wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:The media would be in english so no one would understand it. A hefty amount work would need to be done to dub them.
The universal translator should be able to fix that. Which brings up another question, are there universal translators or equivalent devices in SW universe?

they have droids dedicated specifically for the purpose of translation (ie - C3P0), but i don't think there've been any instances of a 'universal translator' like device.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-10 04:56am

I don't see how the UT or translator droids would be any use.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-05-10 06:02am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I don't see how the UT or translator droids would be any use.

Star Trek fans in the SW-universe will be able to speak Klingon for one thing

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-05-10 06:04am

That doesn't even deserve a "shut the hell up."

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-05-10 02:03pm

PrinceofLowLight wrote:
Ender wrote:
PrinceofLowLight wrote:A GCS in the Star Wars galaxy would simply be priceless. The capabilities aren't important. It'll be the only extra-galactic contact in all history.
Not very familiar with the EU, eh?
Erhm, not really. Only read the Thrawn trilogy and Crimson Empire. Did I just neglect to think about something positively ginormous?

The entire New Jedi Order arc deals with an extragalactic invasion. The Empire knew about extragalactic life (by then certainly, and it is indicated Palpatine was also aware of the coming threat)

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-05-10 03:40pm

Ahh, I see. So these Yuuzzhan Vong folks I keep hearing about are from another galaxy?

Well, uh, I guess I'll just shut up then, won't I.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-05-10 04:14pm

Stark wrote: Interdictors probably mess with warp drive too.

Proof? We know warp operates within a planet's gravity, unlike hyperdrive.

And you'd grow old getting anywhere; doesn't fit with a jet-set lifestyle

Warp out of the gravitational field, then hit the hyperdrive.

Anyway, nobody is going to refit the GCS and fly it, but the technologies aboard could have all sorts of worthy unconventional uses. I particularly like the idea of the Empire quietly beaming dissenters out of their homes and into prison. Heh.

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How much would a GCS be worth in SW-verse?

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