Would you rather be a citizen Imps or the Feds?

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

$100,000+ comes from the canon RPG.

But what type of starship is that?

Tiny ones. A TIE Interceptor is 120,000. A Lambda is 240,000. A YT-2400 is 120,000, though, so I guess the system is a little sucky.

An ISD is over 100,000,000.

[Enforcer Talen]

and yet, the movie states 10k could almost by their own ship.

Im betting thats higher cannon

[Mlenk]

If I was just an average citizen, then I'd definitely go live in the Federation. However, if I got to choose, then I'd be someone rich that gets to live in the upper levels of Coruscant.

[Techno_Union]

Tiny ones. A TIE Interceptor is 120,000. A Lambda is 240,000. A YT-2400 is 120,000, though, so I guess the system is a little sucky.

An ISD is over 100,000,000.

I have the same book... since I looked in it a while ago and recognize the numbers. It doesn't really have any normal ships in it, like a simple ship; it's not surprising a fighter would cost more.

But like Talen said, the movie is higher canon and says 10k would almost get you a ship.

[Captain Cyran]

Tiny ones. A TIE Interceptor is 120,000. A Lambda is 240,000. A YT-2400 is 120,000, though, so I guess the system is a little sucky.

An ISD is over 100,000,000.

I have the same book... since I looked in it a while ago and recognize the numbers. It doesn't really have any normal ships in it, like a simple ship; it's not surprising a fighter would cost more.

But like Talen said, the movie is higher canon and says 10k would almost get you a ship.

A few more things, how much does Luke get for the speeder again? 7,000?

Also, Jabba is only going to give Leia 20,000 or so (don't remember what it was exactly) credits for bringing Chewbacca in, somebody that he was very eager to catch, just as much as Han I'd say. Considering Greedo's comment in the first movie on how big the bounty on Han is, that would mean things don't cost much.

There are way too many signs that the RPG books are full of shit. Han is surprised when Obi-Wan is willing to give him 17,000 credits. Same movie, after Han fries Greedo he tosses the bar tender a single coin for clean up, we don't know how much that coin was, but it couldn't be too much.

[Enforcer Talen]

even if they weren't, buying a used volkswagon (yt1300) is different from buying a stryker (tie fighter).

[Trytostaydead]

Also remember to take in consideration money values. When we talk about 100,000 dollars is in no way the same as 100,000 credits.

[jawbertsc]

well on the face of it i say neither but i probably pick the Empire cause i probably end up being a rebel anyway. It would best to be a good guy. Empires always fail and most of the times its from within. Like the ever Empire this world has seen its hard to outlast your leader. So I take the Empire cause i know its not going to last and what comes after has to be better than the vanaila world of ST

[FedRebel]

Empires always fail and most of the times its from within.

The same applies to other governments aswell

Like communist nations, Federations, and democracies

Like the ever Empire this world has seen its hard to outlast your leader.

I don't know what "the ever Empire" is but the Roman Empire stood for a thousand years

So I take the Empire cause i know its not going to last and what comes after has to be better than the vanaila world of ST

You haven't read EU have you?

decades of continiued war, internal Imperial fighting, the Vong invasion

Post Endor life will really be peachy for the citizens of the galaxy

[HemlockGrey]

I would join the Empire and work to ruthlessly suppress all dissent.

Why? Because I look good in black, that's why.

[Terr Fangbite]

Personally I'd prefer the empire over the federation. At least with the empire, no yahoo race with a starship can pose a major threat to my life every episode.

[Gunhead]

The SW rpg also sais a used YT-1300 is 25000 Cr. You can get a starship for something like 10000-15000 Cr. It just ain't gonna be no Millenium Falcon.
According to the same rpg ISD is roughly 144 000 000 Cr. You'd get 7.5 ISDs for the cost of one SSD. This all according to the rpg.
So there.

-Gunhead

[nasor]

A few more things, how much does Luke get for the speeder again? 7,000?

Also, Jabba is only going to give Leia 20,000 or so (don't remember what it was exactly) credits for bringing Chewbacca in, somebody that he was very eager to catch, just as much as Han I'd say. Considering Greedo's comment in the first movie on how big the bounty on Han is, that would mean things don't cost much.[/i]

We don't know how much Luke got for his speeder. I believe they agree to pay Han something like 10,000 credits for transport, and Luke does indeed say that they could almost buy their own ship for that much, but you don't know how much of the money actually came from the speeder sale. The idea that a little hover-car costs almost as much as an interstellar ship seems pretty outlandish.

Since we don't really have any idea how much a 'credit' is, knowing that a cheap ship costs around 10,000 doesn't really do us any good.

[Coalition]

We don't know how much Luke got for his speeder. I believe they agree to pay Han something like 10,000 credits for transport, and Luke does indeed say that they could almost buy their own ship for that much, but you don't know how much of the money actually came from the speeder sale. The idea that a little hover-car costs almost as much as an interstellar ship seems pretty outlandish.

Don't forget what they were buying:

4 tickets (Luke, Obi-wan, R2, 3PO)
leave immediately
Minimum of Imperial attention
No questions asked

Those last two factors together probably jacked the price up.

[Gunhead]

Didn't Obi-Wan front Han only 2000Cr, and to raise that they had to sell Luke's speeder.

"We'll give you 2000 now and 15000 when we get to alderaan" <-- Kenobi

or something to that effect.
Someone plz check.

-Gunhead

[Prozac the Robert]

On the random tangent: things are probably a lot cheaper on tatooine than coruscant. A new ship in the centre of the empire could cost orders of magnitude more than a piece of junk on the edge of the empire.

[Enforcer Talen]

why? the quality of stuff in cities would be much higher, so the junk they sell on tatooine would be trash for toddlers on coursacnt.

[mr friendly guy]

Federation. While I disagree with some of their policies at least they seem to leave their citizens alone unless you are planning some type of terrorist activity.

And given the capabilities of the average Starfleet crew member, there will be great opportunities for promotion (and yes even if I am not paid, at least as an admiral I would be calling the shots).

[Ghost Rider]

Didn't Obi-Wan front Han only 2000Cr, and to raise that they had to sell Luke's speeder.

"We'll give you 2000 now and 15000 when we get to alderaan" <-- Kenobi

or something to that effect.
Someone plz check.

-Gunhead

Yep.

17,000 was the total trip fare. 2K up front, and 15K when they reached Alderaan.

[Connor MacLeod]

Luke owned a skyhopper (which are capable of low-orbital flight and had inertial compensators, an ion engine, and repulsors) in addition to his landspeeder, so obviously SOME kinds of spacecraft are affordable even to relatively poor types.

What we don't know is what quality of starship Luke might have been implying: Is it a "new" kind, or used? Is it a very "basic" model, or does it have alot of features? One example might be the "budget' Verpine Adventurer from the Black Fleet Crisis.. rather economical and easily affordable for a civilian craft, but not very "impressive" capability-wise.


As for the WOTC/RPG prices, I wouldn't neccesairly put too much faith in them (esp. WOTC - they tend to under-rate the costs.. Publius has noted that an ISD costs several billion credits, yet an ISD2 in WOTC costs like 1/10th that at best, IIRC.)

[Zed Snardbody]

Last time the holodeck malfuntioned I got slapped with 14 paternity suits.

[Karza]

Of course the Empire if I can just pick who I am, since it offers more. However, if I'm going to be the same penniless student I'm now, well, obviously it's the Federation then.

[jawbertsc]

Empires always fail and most of the times its from within.

The same applies to other governments aswell

Like communist nations, Federations, and democracies

true but most empires have a hard time replacing leaders cause most tyrants dont go around looking for sussecors

Like the ever Empire this world has seen its hard to outlast your leader.

I don't know what "the ever Empire" is but the Roman Empire stood for a thousand years


The roman empire was kinda unique but it was only great for a couple hundred years and it kinda hung long after it was "great".

So I take the Empire cause i know its not going to last and what comes after has to be better than the vanaila world of ST

You haven't read EU have you?

I have read most of the EU novels loved most of them cept for the jedi search and the new jedi order series

decades of continiued war, internal Imperial fighting, the Vong invasion
Post Endor life will really be peachy for the citizens of the galaxy

i never said it was peachy but it was not boring and there where long time frames where there was quite times as well.

[Prozac the Robert]

why? the quality of stuff in cities would be much higher, so the junk they sell on tatooine would be trash for toddlers on coursacnt.

Look at the difference in price of stuff between the west and africa or the far east.

Or just look at the increased cost of a drink in london compared to the rest of england.

[Drooling Iguana]

Luke owned a skyhopper (which are capable of low-orbital flight and had inertial compensators, an ion engine, and repulsors) in addition to his landspeeder, so obviously SOME kinds of spacecraft are affordable even to relatively poor types.

What we don't know is what quality of starship Luke might have been implying: Is it a "new" kind, or used? Is it a very "basic" model, or does it have alot of features? One example might be the "budget' Verpine Adventurer from the Black Fleet Crisis.. rather economical and easily affordable for a civilian craft, but not very "impressive" capability-wise.

Luke said that he could "almost buy his own ship" for 10,000 credits. That means that the cheapest starship available anywhere Luke could get to cost slightly more than 10,000 credits. After all, why would he say "almost" if there were actually ships available for less than 10,000 credits?