The wormhole in the FanFic was natural. The Imperials just added some rings to it to hold it open and stable.Patrick Degan wrote:And a stable natural wormhole does not exist in the ST continuity at all. The Bajoran Wormhole doesn't count as it was an artefact constructed by the Prophets. An artificial wormhole would be an outgrowth of the Empire's existing hyperdrive technologies, and is the assumption behind the fanfic up on the main site.
Federation Strategy for Defeating the Empire
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Correct, because it would have wandered off eventually if they had not done that, just like any normal Trek wormhole.Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:The wormhole in the FanFic was natural. The Imperials just added some rings to it to hold it open and stable.Patrick Degan wrote:And a stable natural wormhole does not exist in the ST continuity at all. The Bajoran Wormhole doesn't count as it was an artefact constructed by the Prophets. An artificial wormhole would be an outgrowth of the Empire's existing hyperdrive technologies, and is the assumption behind the fanfic up on the main site.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
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The only way to stop the Empire would be to deflect their interest.
Kill Palpantine and the Empire would withdraw to fight over which Grand Admiral takes over the whole enchalada. Of course that would only get them a breather and it would probably be harder than beating the Imperial Navy, since Palpy can tell when someone is after him.
Destroying anything the Empire was guarding would be probably be beyond Starfleet's reach. The Empire could simply put the intergalactic gate in the Delta Quadrant or half a galactic diameter outside the galaxy. Even if it was near Mars, the Federation would be screwed.
That being said, it would be overwhelmingly in earth's best interest to join the Empire. Earth only survived by luck so far in the Federation. There have been too many 'skin of their teeth' squeakers not to give joining the Empire very serious thought. There would be many benefits and almost no drawbacks.
Humans run the Empire and humans run the Federation. When bad guys come knocking, they don't go after the Vulcans or any other group. The plan is always 'go straight to Earth and get those pesky humans and the rest will collapse.' Imagine them running into an enormous Imperial fleet and a heavily shielded and fortified system instead of a joke like Starfleet Command.
Beyond military benefits, there is also the economy to consider. How many merchants would welcome a two-galaxy free market with open arms? The standard of living would go up enormously and the combative aliens that get in the way would be ruthlessly and quickly exterminated. I mean, does anyone really like Klingons anyway?
In a galaxy that contains all kinds of badhats, like the Borg for instance, it
is only natural that earth would want to join an unbeatable human-dominated power and crush all the hideous aliens into submission. Even if earth fights, the Empire will do it anyway. Everyone left will hate humans after that, so better to be the hammer than the nail.
Screw the Vulcans.
Kill Palpantine and the Empire would withdraw to fight over which Grand Admiral takes over the whole enchalada. Of course that would only get them a breather and it would probably be harder than beating the Imperial Navy, since Palpy can tell when someone is after him.
Destroying anything the Empire was guarding would be probably be beyond Starfleet's reach. The Empire could simply put the intergalactic gate in the Delta Quadrant or half a galactic diameter outside the galaxy. Even if it was near Mars, the Federation would be screwed.
That being said, it would be overwhelmingly in earth's best interest to join the Empire. Earth only survived by luck so far in the Federation. There have been too many 'skin of their teeth' squeakers not to give joining the Empire very serious thought. There would be many benefits and almost no drawbacks.
Humans run the Empire and humans run the Federation. When bad guys come knocking, they don't go after the Vulcans or any other group. The plan is always 'go straight to Earth and get those pesky humans and the rest will collapse.' Imagine them running into an enormous Imperial fleet and a heavily shielded and fortified system instead of a joke like Starfleet Command.
Beyond military benefits, there is also the economy to consider. How many merchants would welcome a two-galaxy free market with open arms? The standard of living would go up enormously and the combative aliens that get in the way would be ruthlessly and quickly exterminated. I mean, does anyone really like Klingons anyway?
In a galaxy that contains all kinds of badhats, like the Borg for instance, it
is only natural that earth would want to join an unbeatable human-dominated power and crush all the hideous aliens into submission. Even if earth fights, the Empire will do it anyway. Everyone left will hate humans after that, so better to be the hammer than the nail.
Screw the Vulcans.
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2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
1. [Capitalized] A member of a warlike Thessalian people who followed Achilles on the expedition against Troy.
2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
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1-Travel back in time a few hundred years, (prior to ww3), slingshot around the sun will do.
2-Boost technology of society by bringing back goodies.
3-wait until before Empire arrives
4-Repeat from step 1 until Gridfire is developed.
2-Boost technology of society by bringing back goodies.
3-wait until before Empire arrives
4-Repeat from step 1 until Gridfire is developed.
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1. Travel back in time.
2. Hump Palpantines mother.
3. Tell the brat to take his stardestroyers and butt the hell out.
2. Hump Palpantines mother.
3. Tell the brat to take his stardestroyers and butt the hell out.
myrmidon \MUR-muh-don; -dun\, noun:
1. [Capitalized] A member of a warlike Thessalian people who followed Achilles on the expedition against Troy.
2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
1. [Capitalized] A member of a warlike Thessalian people who followed Achilles on the expedition against Troy.
2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
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what if you do that and end up the father of Palpatine?Myrmidon wrote:1. Travel back in time.
2. Hump Palpantines mother.
3. Tell the brat to take his stardestroyers and butt the hell out.
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-George Carlin (1937-2008)
"Have some of you Americans actually seen Football? Of course there are 0-0 draws but that doesn't make them any less exciting."
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Well yeah, that's the point. You end up as the little tyke's dear ol' pop, and you teach him to be nice and to give half the loot to his deserving parent.
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1. [Capitalized] A member of a warlike Thessalian people who followed Achilles on the expedition against Troy.
2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
1. [Capitalized] A member of a warlike Thessalian people who followed Achilles on the expedition against Troy.
2. A loyal follower, especially one who executes orders without question, protest, or pity.
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Yeah necromancy is strongly looked down upon here... *looks at post dates* and this is most definately necromancy.Myrmidon wrote:Well yeah, that's the point. You end up as the little tyke's dear ol' pop, and you teach him to be nice and to give half the loot to his deserving parent.
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1. Yay for necromancy
2. It's funny that everyone comes up with the whole "Let's inflitrate" without grasping that this thing takes literally years to do on OUR world...let alone something on a galaxy scale.
But hey, let's just go with a derivative idea and expand ad nauseum.
Locked.
2. It's funny that everyone comes up with the whole "Let's inflitrate" without grasping that this thing takes literally years to do on OUR world...let alone something on a galaxy scale.
But hey, let's just go with a derivative idea and expand ad nauseum.
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Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all
Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete