Non-standard ways to kill a Trek ship

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-18 01:51pm

Mind you the Shodan/Hal computer sub would not result in the death of the ship, just the entire crew, as no one in Starfleet is up to the Hacker/Dave Bowman role now that Kirk is dead.

brothersinarm · Post by **brothersinarm** » 2002-12-18 02:07pm

Well i don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but in the nemisis trailer didn't the enterprise crash into another ship? So I guess ramming would be considered an abnormal way of destroying a ship.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-18 03:08pm

brothersinarm wrote:Well i don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but in the nemisis trailer didn't the enterprise crash into another ship? So I guess ramming would be considered an abnormal way of destroying a ship.

Ramming attacks where seen many times in DS9, and such is covered by the topic post.

brothersinarm · Post by **brothersinarm** » 2002-12-18 05:27pm

Oh in DS9, i've seen it only a couple of times. Sorry for bringing it up again. But what exactly rammed DS9?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-12-18 05:44pm

brothersinarm wrote:Oh in DS9, i've seen it only a couple of times. Sorry for bringing it up again. But what exactly rammed DS9?

You name it. Cardassian ships, Klingon ships, Dominion ships...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-18 09:28pm

I just remembered another method: a hand phaser to the deflector dish (see STFC). If you can knock down the shields, the slightest damage to the deflector dish blows up half the ship. Good design

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-18 09:44pm

If you can knock down the shields, the slightest damage to the deflector dish blows up half the ship. Good design

It's a bug, Dave...

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-19 03:08am

*L* let OSHA inspect the damn thing

master_yoda · Post by **master_yoda** » 2002-12-19 05:10am

throw a pebble at its warpcore thingy

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-19 01:42pm

The word is 'Zot'. The action is burning out the ship from high-powered radar. The ISD need only direct it's main array at the E-E.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2002-12-19 05:14pm

Uraniun235 wrote:
From "Heart of Glory", shooting a warp core with a hand phaser will destroy the ship.
This is fixed later, as it took the HoloDoctor from Voyager firing a phaser at max power continuously into the warp core for some time to threaten a core breach. (it was that crazy "am i dr. zimmerman trapped in a holodeck?" episode)

As I recall, almost that entire episode was a "holodeck fantasy" created by the Doctor's delusional mind because of some kind of trouble with his program.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2002-12-19 05:47pm

Hadn't the Romulans rigged up some sort of feedback that would have destroyed the ship the moment it went to warp in "The Next Phase" (foiled by those pesky Federation ghosts -- THAT'S IT! Geordi and Laren had been turned into "metaphasic lifeforms"!).

I believe something similar also happened in "Timescape".

You could also spread some of the odd chemical from "Hollow Pursuits" around the ship and wait for it to get into something vital, since it degrades some essential materials.

Release a large number of the parasites from the Pelloris Field onto the ship ("Cost of Living"). They materials they consume tend to be components of critical systems.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-19 10:54pm

SirNitram wrote:The word is 'Zot'. The action is burning out the ship from high-powered radar. The ISD need only direct it's main array at the E-E.

Nemisis vs. Thrawn.

Pelloen: They appear to be trying to use some sort of Cloaking shield.
Thrawn: Well judging by Romulon Art they will be in these coordinates, ahh hell just fire up the ELINT systems and fry them through their sensor grids rigged to their pathetic power systems....

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-12-22 05:49am

Take a Culture ship, and use its EM effector. Or Displacer-warhead, with a nanohole.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2002-12-22 06:53am

Darth Wong wrote:I just remembered another method: a hand phaser to the deflector dish (see STFC). If you can knock down the shields, the slightest damage to the deflector dish blows up half the ship. Good design

I've been silently laughing at that for years. No wonder Starfleet didn't want the E-E at the battle.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2002-12-22 06:55am

XPViking wrote:Non-standard ways to kill a Trek ship?

Fiddle around on that stupid holodeck. Create a sentient hologram. Try to establish contact with this new lifeform while in the meantime the hologram runs amok and nearly takes control of the ship. Finally defeat it. Repeat.

Starfleet sometimes is its own worst enemy.

XPViking

That's a standard way.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-12-22 08:21am

Tell Bun-Bun, that the Federation has no use for money, and no intentions of making a Risa-watch series.

Oh, wait that's a non-standard way of killing all of Trek

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2002-12-22 04:06pm

Non standard ways to kill a trek ship? Fire that thing they used in Insurrection that caused the ship's shields to reset. Then fire a single shot into the bridge. Goodbye

Or just drop a torpedo on the bridge, the bleedthrough from the shields alone ought to blast a hole and leave it open to vacuum.

Another idea- if you have a Star Trek ship (not Star Wars), beam a bomb into the engine room. If you have a Star Wars ship...use the standard way, the shields will last a full second against your weapons and the hull about half a second

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-22 04:47pm

SirNitram wrote:The word is 'Zot'. The action is burning out the ship from high-powered radar. The ISD need only direct it's main array at the E-E.

A frigate could probably do it. After all a civilian radio transmission tower brought down a pair of Tornados and one MiG-29 may have been killed by an EF-111 in that way.

The power disparities in those cases where less then that of Star Wars and Star Trek vessels of comparable masses.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-12-23 01:24pm

Praxis wrote:Another idea- if you have a Star Trek ship (not Star Wars), beam a bomb into the engine room. If you have a Star Wars ship...use the standard way, the shields will last a full second against your weapons and the hull about half a second

Welcome, newbie!*chucks egg*
Just use ion cannons. They punch through shields, and cause the warp core to go boom.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-12-23 01:40pm

Praxis wrote:Non standard ways to kill a trek ship? Fire that thing they used in Insurrection that caused the ship's shields to reset.

Insurrection? Don't you mean Generations?

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-23 03:59pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Praxis wrote:Non standard ways to kill a trek ship? Fire that thing they used in Insurrection that caused the ship's shields to reset.
Insurrection? Don't you mean Generations?

No, he's talking about the tachyon bursts from insurrection (BTW, if tachyons are so effective against shields that they can allow a shuttlecraft to threaten a starship, then why aren't they standard weaponry? Wait, that would require that the Federation have a competent military. Nevermind...)

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-24 02:10am

Darth Wong wrote:I just remembered another method: a hand phaser to the deflector dish (see STFC). If you can knock down the shields, the slightest damage to the deflector dish blows up half the ship. Good design

Consequently, that might explain the level of damage sustained to the Galaxy-class ship destroyed by the Jem'Hadar in the episode "The Jem'Hadar" when they were retreating with the runabouts. IIRC, it was called the U.S.S. Oddessy. If memory serves, that bug hit the deflector dish along with the torp launcher. Been a LONG time since I've seen that episode though.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-24 02:14am

You know, a good way to defeat the feds is to clone lots of Jar Jars and leave them where the feds will find them....and let the fun begin.

Damn I am evil.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-24 08:10pm

I have just thought of the ULTIMATE weapon:

Pictures of Jar-Jar AND Janeway.
Both nude.
And having sex with each other.
Having written that, I must now barf.