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Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-11-27 02:17pm

My my my my my, it seems this always happens to the poor Trekkies *laughs under breath*

Rather funny I must say.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2004-11-27 04:57pm

Of course, you know they're congratulating themselves on a job well done: "We made two weeks instead of two days!! We're making headway against those Warsies!!"

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2004-11-27 05:03pm

We assault them, they run away!

We shut down entire forums, and still, they run away!

Well, Cpt. Newland's colony experiment has failed. Only their fortress of ignorance, G2K's site, is still undaunted by the advances of logic and reason.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-11-27 05:05pm

Mange the Swede wrote:
Avatar of Narendra III wrote:I regret to inform the members that This board will be removed within the next few days. Our goal of stimulating debate and discussion in a stagnating Batttle, has failed, The forum has deteriorated into a shouting match of Canon claims. The Forum will remain up (although locked) for a day of so, and then we will remove it and begin work on an overhaul of the main website, do not discount us, the forum may resurface at a latter date.

Good Bye, Good Luck, Good Ridance,
The Staff

That was a very poor excuse for closing down the board (and the rather meager site). Canon issues was discussed, almost exclusively, in the thread Star Wars canon policy vs Trekkies, and didn't spill over much to the other threads. Any person that was a member on that board must have been able to see that. That board had some good results, a.o. Dorkstar couldn't defend his ludicrous arguments, and IMO Vympel, Meest and the rest of you made a really good job. I'm a poor debater, so I'm glad to see that some of you was so effective.

even darkstar's claims of the board eating up alot of bandwidth made more sense than this when he closed it down. . . .this is just pathetically sad.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-11-27 06:24pm

And another one bites the dust.....

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-27 07:15pm

Ever seen an online game server that suddenly and mysteriously shuts down when the owner realizes he's going to lose?

Darth Lucifer · Post by **Darth Lucifer** » 2004-11-27 10:24pm

Darth Wong wrote:Ever seen an online game server that suddenly and mysteriously shuts down when the owner realizes he's going to lose?

All the time. Now that you mention it, I got a very similar feeling when the Trek guys locked their site down. Too bad, so sad. Buh-Bye fellers. We'll see you all here. We know you can't resist the calling.

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-11-28 12:03am

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba wrote:Well, Cpt. Newland's colony experiment has failed.

You mean 'colonic' experiment. On Darkstar. With his dick.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-11-28 01:07am

We could invite all of them over here to continue debating.

Except for the guys that have already been banned, of course.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-28 09:51pm

Avatar of Narendra III wrote:I regret to inform the members that This board will be removed within the next few days. Our goal of stimulating debate and discussion in a stagnating Batttle, has failed, The forum has deteriorated into a shouting match of Canon claims. The Forum will remain up (although locked) for a day of so, and then we will remove it and begin work on an overhaul of the main website, do not discount us, the forum may resurface at a latter date.

Good Bye, Good Luck, Good Ridance,
The Staff

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"Our goal of stimulating debate and discussion in a stagnating Battle, has failed. By that, we mean that we got our asses handed to us in debate after debate, since ANYONE can see that there was tons of discussion and debate going on. Let's blame it on the canon thread and pretend no one saw nothing. You win this round, Warsies, but THERE WILL BE OTHERS!"

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-28 11:12pm

What I find most surprising is that they seem to honestly believe they are worthy adversaries. It's like arguing with the precocious and snobby child of wealthy parents; he doesn't know shit and you can shred his arguments effortlessly, but he's still absolutely convinced that he's better than you. He doesn't even realize that he's not even really worth your time, and that you only debate him because he won't shut up, not because he's a worthy foe.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-11-28 11:31pm

Erm...this is somewhat OT...but my physics education ended five years ago with AP Physics B, and I've forgotten a bit since then. Just what is a field effect? I seem to remember reading about it with those popsicle stick and tin foil floaters, but all I can find on Google is Field Effect Transistors, and electricity was the one section I totally sucked in.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-28 11:48pm

The Dark wrote:Erm...this is somewhat OT...but my physics education ended five years ago with AP Physics B, and I've forgotten a bit since then. Just what is a field effect? I seem to remember reading about it with those popsicle stick and tin foil floaters, but all I can find on Google is Field Effect Transistors, and electricity was the one section I totally sucked in.

Pretty much all of electromagnetism and gravity is field effects. People who watch too much sci-fi often get the idea that a "field" must be composed of something, when in reality it might simply be a region which is affected by a phenomenon.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-11-29 12:01am

Oh. I did find a definition in the IUPAC Compendium of Chemical Terminology, but it talks about intramolecular effects, which is a far smaller scale than you were discussing. I guess that confused me a bit. You were basically just talking about how the EM field extends outside of those particles specifically involved in the electron flow?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-11-29 12:35am

The Dark wrote:Oh. I did find a definition in the IUPAC Compendium of Chemical Terminology, but it talks about intramolecular effects, which is a far smaller scale than you were discussing. I guess that confused me a bit. You were basically just talking about how the EM field extends outside of those particles specifically involved in the electron flow?

No, I was just referring to the possibility of a field effect of some sort. I never said it had to be an EM field in particular; I just find it irksome when people insist that any kinds of shielding effect must be "made of energy".

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2004-11-29 02:32am

The Dark wrote:Erm...this is somewhat OT...but my physics education ended five years ago with AP Physics B, and I've forgotten a bit since then. Just what is a field effect? I seem to remember reading about it with those popsicle stick and tin foil floaters, but all I can find on Google is Field Effect Transistors, and electricity was the one section I totally sucked in.

E.g. Ship + Powerful Magnetic Field vs Charged Particle Beam Weapon = 'Deflector Shield'.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-11-29 03:05am

Mange the Swede wrote:That was a very poor excuse for closing down the board (and the rather meager site). Canon issues was discussed, almost exclusively, in the thread Star Wars canon policy vs Trekkies, and didn't spill over much to the other threads. Any person that was a member on that board must have been able to see that. That board had some good results, a.o. Dorkstar couldn't defend his ludicrous arguments, and IMO Vympel, Meest and the rest of you made a really good job. I'm a poor debater, so I'm glad to see that some of you was so effective.

The thing you have to remember is, canon policy to DarkStar-brand Rabid-Trekkies is not what most people would consider canon policy. See, to such Trektards, the canon for both shows includes DarkStar's website. Thus, each time DarkStar's website was criticized, it was invariably an assault on white womanhood... er... Trektard canon policy. Thus, while most people will see only a smattering of discussions about the canon policy, to the DarkStar-brand Trektard, the repeated attacks on DarkStar's website also represented attacks on the canon.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-11-29 12:12pm

Lord Poe wrote:LOL!! I didn't see this before:
http://renegade.frozenflame.org/My%20P ... shield.gif

Hilarious!!

Kudos goes to Icehawk for that one.

And I love your pics that you put in that thread.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-11-29 12:18pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:That was a very poor excuse for closing down the board (and the rather meager site). Canon issues was discussed, almost exclusively, in the thread Star Wars canon policy vs Trekkies, and didn't spill over much to the other threads. Any person that was a member on that board must have been able to see that. That board had some good results, a.o. Dorkstar couldn't defend his ludicrous arguments, and IMO Vympel, Meest and the rest of you made a really good job. I'm a poor debater, so I'm glad to see that some of you was so effective.
The thing you have to remember is, canon policy to DarkStar-brand Rabid-Trekkies is not what most people would consider canon policy. See, to such Trektards, the canon for both shows includes DarkStar's website. Thus, each time DarkStar's website was criticized, it was invariably an assault on white womanhood... er... Trektard canon policy. Thus, while most people will see only a smattering of discussions about the canon policy, to the DarkStar-brand Trektard, the repeated attacks on DarkStar's website also represented attacks on the canon.

Yes, that's true. One thing that I pointed out and that I thought would've been interesting to see was how the trekkies in general and Darkstar in particular responded to how Darkstar is twisting quotes etc. For example, in dealing with the quote from Insider #68, Dorkstar referred to Dr. West Reynolds simply as an "EU writer" that couldn't distinguish LucasFilm from LucasPublishing. Dorkstar conveniently "forgot" to mention that Dr. West Reynolds at the time was a full-time employee at LFL, and not simply an "EU writer". These are the tactics employed by the trekkies.

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2004-11-29 10:09pm

Damnit. I didn't get any licks in.

*Grumbles about no looking at this thread earlier*

I could have used some debate/logical fallacy spotting practice. If they pop up again, I'm starting a Trek vs. 40k, Trek vs. Hyperion Pax.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-11-29 10:39pm

Mange the Swede wrote:For example, in dealing with the quote from Insider #68, Dorkstar referred to Dr. West Reynolds simply as an "EU writer" that couldn't distinguish LucasFilm from LucasPublishing. Dorkstar conveniently "forgot" to mention that Dr. West Reynolds at the time was a full-time employee at LFL, and not simply an "EU writer". These are the tactics employed by the trekkies.

Yep. I destroyed Dorkstar on this very topic on spacebattles last year. You can tell when he gets desperate; he drops his Queen Elizabethan English and starts sputtering like a stutter eating peanut butter.

+http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... ge=1&pp=25

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-11-30 03:24am

Lord Poe wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:For example, in dealing with the quote from Insider #68, Dorkstar referred to Dr. West Reynolds simply as an "EU writer" that couldn't distinguish LucasFilm from LucasPublishing. Dorkstar conveniently "forgot" to mention that Dr. West Reynolds at the time was a full-time employee at LFL, and not simply an "EU writer". These are the tactics employed by the trekkies.
Yep. I destroyed Dorkstar on this very topic on spacebattles last year. You can tell when he gets desperate; he drops his Queen Elizabethan English and starts sputtering like a stutter eating peanut butter.

+http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... ge=1&pp=25

A really good analogy

! I wasn't aware of this discussion over at SB.com (I never visit that forum), but it was a good read. I was a bit surprised to see that Dorkstar was banned over there, I thought they were a bit more pro-Trek (but perhaps they have more common sense than Dorkstar).

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-11-30 03:30am

Mange the Swede wrote:I was a bit surprised to see that Dorkstar was banned over there, I thought they were a bit more pro-Trek (but perhaps they have more common sense than Dorkstar).

They are pro-Trek. They just atren't pro-Fucking Idiot, which is why Darkstar was shit-canned by nearly everyone there even before being banned.

Darkstar has been kicked out of ASVS (twice), SD.net, and sb.com.

Questor · Post by **Questor** » 2004-11-30 04:03am

Lord Poe wrote:
Mange the Swede wrote:I was a bit surprised to see that Dorkstar was banned over there, I thought they were a bit more pro-Trek (but perhaps they have more common sense than Dorkstar).
They are pro-Trek. They just atren't pro-Fucking Idiot, which is why Darkstar was shit-canned by nearly everyone there even before being banned.

Darkstar has been kicked out of ASVS (twice), SD.net, and sb.com.

I hate to bring this up, but are we sure we got rid of him (in ASVS)?

Mike3 reminded me a lot of RSA.

Sonnenburg · Post by **Sonnenburg** » 2004-11-30 08:47am

Jason L. Miles wrote: I hate to bring this up, but are we sure we got rid of him (in ASVS)?

Mike3 reminded me a lot of RSA.

Mike3 lacks the rhetorical skills of Scooter, not to mention his posting history would have required Scooter to have been crafting that persona over years (and if that's true, then the man is more deranged than any of us ever imagined). No, Mike3 is just a follower.