One person, One ship, One galaxy. Challenge

[SapphireFox]

A transporter dissasebles you into a cloud of disassociated sub-atomic particials if you can turn that into useable energy then yes you can use it as part of a reactor that can function on almost any fuel. (kind of like a tech version of an S2 core from evangelion)

Yes, but when has it ever been shown using that to power anything? It's one thing to potentially be able to do something, and another entirely to actually do it.

True. Although it might be a topic of research for your allies and such that would enable them to potentially run some of the advanced systems you can give them. Or perhaps as a carrot/distraction to dangle in front of them to focus their attentions elsewhere when you need such.

[Norade]

A transporter dissasebles you into a cloud of disassociated sub-atomic particials if you can turn that into useable energy then yes you can use it as part of a reactor that can function on almost any fuel. (kind of like a tech version of an S2 core from evangelion)

Yes, but when has it ever been shown using that to power anything? It's one thing to potentially be able to do something, and another entirely to actually do it.

True. Although it might be a topic of research for your allies and such that would enable them to potentially run some of the advanced systems you can give them. Or perhaps as a carrot/distraction to dangle in front of them to focus their attentions elsewhere when you need such.

Possibly, but though we can suggest that such a thing may work they know the tech better than we do so we can suggest and hope that it works and that's about it.

[Purple]

A transporter dissasebles you into a cloud of disassociated sub-atomic particials if you can turn that into useable energy then yes you can use it as part of a reactor that can function on almost any fuel. (kind of like a tech version of an S2 core from evangelion)

Exactly what I was aiming for. A fellow eva fan I see.

[RowanE]

Well, first, i'd spend a while talking to the Q-being, getting detail on
a) What sort of immortality he's talking about. I don't want immortality without youth, nor do i want to be unable to end it if and when i so desire. I think "godlike being offers you immortality if you do this" seems like a simple way of justifying "you want to acheive this", in which case he's offering to uplift me to a similarly powerful and immortal Q-like being. I want to do that playful god stuff, too.
b) What definition of conquest is used? Setting up an authoritarian dictatorship with me at its head? Any galaxy-spanning nation (can you use such words as nation? empire seems to work fine, but i want a more general term) under my rule? Or a feudalistic system where i nominally rule the galaxy, but just have a single planet to myself so i can live in obscene luxury, so i don't have to actually worry about much.

Now, assuming that the offer is something i want, and i can use the easiest definition of conquest, i'll conserve fuel as much as possible, and use the shortest route to the homeworlds of every major empire, or whatever we call countries in space. By which i mean, choose the most fuel-efficient path to reach all of these homeworlds in succession. This assumes I will have intel about the galaxy. I will then follow that route, and at each planet demand that the space-nation swears fealty to me, and if they say "no", blow up every combat vessel in range, and ask again with the threat of planetary annihilation. With every major civilization in the galaxy under my rule, except perhaps the borg, i'll have them make peace with each other, and expand my empire to the minor nations i didn't bother with - i'll give my help as necessary.
I can probably offer enough to the borg - a few samples of SW alloys and tech, or maybe people kidnapped from other races they haven't met yet.
By making fealty to me a pretty sweet deal, most minor nations or independent planets will be lining up to join the club. Especially when the alternative is conquest by members of said club.
I don't think i even need to be in the ship for battle tactics, i can just put a droid in command if the order is just "kill those ships" or "glass that planet". So 99% of my time will be spent relaxing in a massive, ostentatious palace with grounds the size of western europe, in a planet ruled directly by me somewhere central in the galaxy. Oh, and with a harem of thousands of women personally selected from throughout the galaxy

[Junghalli]

Personally one of the first things I'd plan to do in this scenario is seize control of that immortality planet from Insurrection. That should give me a lot more time to accomplish my task. After that I'll probably ally with the Federation: of all the major Trek factions I can remember offhand they strike me as the one the galaxy would be best off under, and as I'm now soaking in the immortality rays I probably won't even have to get them to act too out of character - with access to advanced SW tech and all the advantages that would imply they could probably just gradually and relatively peacefully assimilate most of the rest of the galaxy over a period of centuries.

[SapphireFox]

It's been awhile since I last thought about this so sorry for not answering earlier.

Well, first, i'd spend a while talking to the Q-being, getting detail on
a) What sort of immortality he's talking about. I don't want immortality without youth, nor do i want to be unable to end it if and when i so desire. I think "godlike being offers you immortality if you do this" seems like a simple way of justifying "you want to acheive this", in which case he's offering to uplift me to a similarly powerful and immortal Q-like being. I want to do that playful god stuff, too.

Yes I was thinking of youthful immortality when I came up with the scenario. As for the uplifting (I hate that term) ascension to "God" status that you can try to negotiate for it with the one who made the offer of immortality with when you succeed.

b) What definition of conquest is used? Setting up an authoritarian dictatorship with me at its head? Any galaxy-spanning nation (can you use such words as nation? empire seems to work fine, but i want a more general term) under my rule? Or a feudalistic system where i nominally rule the galaxy, but just have a single planet to myself so i can live in obscene luxury, so i don't have to actually worry about much.

As established earlier all you need is for each group to say that you rule them. This can be lip service/figure head status/or tribute target as much or as little as you need. It needn't be iron fisted absolute rule over all. You just need to be the one who nominaly is in control. The states can rule themselves in an autonomous manner so long as you can claim dominion over them. Of course that being said there is nothing saying you can't have that true authoritarian empire if you want, how you control your people is up to you

Now, assuming that the offer is something i want, and i can use the easiest definition of conquest, i'll conserve fuel as much as possible, and use the shortest route to the homeworlds of every major empire, or whatever we call countries in space. By which i mean, choose the most fuel-efficient path to reach all of these homeworlds in succession. This assumes I will have intel about the galaxy. I will then follow that route, and at each planet demand that the space-nation swears fealty to me, and if they say "no", blow up every combat vessel in range, and ask again with the threat of planetary annihilation. With every major civilization in the galaxy under my rule, except perhaps the borg, i'll have them make peace with each other, and expand my empire to the minor nations i didn't bother with - i'll give my help as necessary.
I can probably offer enough to the borg - a few samples of SW alloys and tech, or maybe people kidnapped from other races they haven't met yet.

Somehow I dont think the space zombies borg are smart enough to take the deal. However there still is the brute force method left.

By making fealty to me a pretty sweet deal, most minor nations or independent planets will be lining up to join the club. Especially when the alternative is conquest by members of said club.
I don't think i even need to be in the ship for battle tactics, i can just put a droid in command if the order is just "kill those ships" or "glass that planet". So 99% of my time will be spent relaxing in a massive, ostentatious palace with grounds the size of western europe, in a planet ruled directly by me somewhere central in the galaxy. Oh, and with a harem of thousands of women personally selected from throughout the galaxy

I love a good plan for down time.

Personally one of the first things I'd plan to do in this scenario is seize control of that immortality planet from Insurrection. That should give me a lot more time to accomplish my task. After that I'll probably ally with the Federation: of all the major Trek factions I can remember offhand they strike me as the one the galaxy would be best off under, and as I'm now soaking in the immortality rays I probably won't even have to get them to act too out of character - with access to advanced SW tech and all the advantages that would imply they could probably just gradually and relatively peacefully assimilate most of the rest of the galaxy over a period of centuries.

Damn! I hadn't even thought of that. Set up the limited immortality planet as your secret base and you can use any long range plan you want.

[Azron_Stoma]

I was always under the Impression that the S2 core was a form of Hyperspatial Tap much like what the Vorlons use in Babylon 5 taking energy straight from Hyperspace/Dirac Sea at a certain rate, so it has unlimited Energy but not unlimited Power.

The Incident of Eva-04 being caused by them attempting to try and increase the rate of energy retrieval to boost the power, resulting in the Dirac Sea "opening" or whatever they used to get the power from it to expand out of control and swallowing up the entire area.

Anyhow if we use Author's Intent and ignore the philosophical ramification and assume some technobable excuse for people surviving the Transporter process (rather than the more realistic kill/clone method)
Note this is the ONLY thing I ever use Author's Intent to excuse.

Then I would use the Transporter for a form of Immortality, Intentionally undergoing what Picard, Guinan, Ro and Keiko did accidentally (as well as save a sample or sample data of myself at the physical age of 20)

Long term Degradation might also be an issue though.

The Baku planet or another like it would possibly be the better bet.

you say all the Data for making practically everything short of Superweapons would be found in the VSD's databanks? so yeah first thing in order would of course be to build up a means to maintain the VSD, then build smaller, but still powerful droid ships.

I can't imagine anyone being able to conquer 100,000,000 Sytems in one or even 10 lifetimes however, not with the starting resources described.

Maybe only conquer all of the major races like the Dominion, Borg, Federation, Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians?

My standard Battle Droid would probably be a version of these http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BX-series_droid_commando, that way I can still fold them out of an MTT and such while them still being very competent and capable of shrugging off Phaser/Disruptor/Polaron/Tetryon whatever. as well as of course use SBDs and so forth. Are HRD's with remote Interfaces allowed similar to the movie Avatar (only with more selective feedback to reduce/eliminate pain feedback and dumpshock) So I can "Personally" go places without actually being at risk?

[SapphireFox]

I was always under the Impression that the S2 core was a form of Hyperspatial Tap much like what the Vorlons use in Babylon 5 taking energy straight from Hyperspace/Dirac Sea at a certain rate, so it has unlimited Energy but not unlimited Power.

The Incident of Eva-04 being caused by them attempting to try and increase the rate of energy retrieval to boost the power, resulting in the Dirac Sea "opening" or whatever they used to get the power from it to expand out of control and swallowing up the entire area.

Not quite. The S2 stands for Super-Solenoid, and Super-Solenoid theory as described in Eva is thus.

The Super Solenoid Theory (S² Theory) which is mentioned in EVANGELION:DEATH is developed by Dr.Katsuragi. With this theory, human can 100% convert mass to energy without any loss. This theory has once been used by the scientists of Katsuragi Expedition in order to wake Adam. However this resulted in the Second Impact.

Anyhow if we use Author's Intent and ignore the philosophical ramification and assume some technobable excuse for people surviving the Transporter process (rather than the more realistic kill/clone method)
Note this is the ONLY thing I ever use Author's Intent to excuse.

That depends on how you define death, however it still boggles my mind how anyone can get in the damned thing and use it knowing what it does to you.

Then I would use the Transporter for a form of Immortality, Intentionally undergoing what Picard, Guinan, Ro and Keiko did accidentally (as well as save a sample or sample data of myself at the physical age of 20)

Long term Degradation might also be an issue though.

Leaving your samples in stasis in a secured bunker on the baku planet (just in case the stasis isn't perfect) might be your best bet.

The Baku planet or another like it would possibly be the better bet.

Nothing saying you can't do both plans at once.

you say all the Data for making practically everything short of Superweapons would be found in the VSD's databanks? so yeah first thing in order would of course be to build up a means to maintain the VSD, then build smaller, but still powerful droid ships.

I can't imagine anyone being able to conquer 100,000,000 Sytems in one or even 10 lifetimes however, not with the starting resources described.

If you feel you can't under the time constraints then put yourself in stasis and let the droids do most of the work throughout the year only unfreezing yourself for a month per year to do maintenance give commands and correct problems. (I worked for an old dos space empire game I once had)

Maybe only conquer all of the major races like the Dominion, Borg, Federation, Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians?

My standard Battle Droid would probably be a version of these http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/BX-series_droid_commando, that way I can still fold them out of an MTT and such while them still being very competent and capable of shrugging off Phaser/Disruptor/Polaron/Tetryon whatever. as well as of course use SBDs and so forth.

Sounds like the beginning of a decent strategy. Just remember that the more complex the droid the harder or longer it is to produce.

Are HRD's with remote Interfaces allowed similar to the movie Avatar (only with more selective feedback to reduce/eliminate pain feedback and dumpshock) So I can "Personally" go places without actually being at risk?

*blink blink* If you think you can pull it off I see no problem with it. Your greatest hurdle will be the construction of an HRD as trying to build them is incredibly difficult to get right. Next greatest hurdle will be the cyber surgery on you to hook you up to the droid, after all it has to work perfectly the first time. However if you can overcome this I see no problem in doing the remote op droid plan.

However it might be simpler to create a custom standard type droid for your mind to inhabit like some kind of Grievous type body or something more like a Dark Trooper droid style.

This does come up with an interesting thought though. The body jumping process would allow to theoretically pull a "Ghost in the Shell" type of cyber brain immortality not unlike Major Motoko Kusanagi. Your consciousness would be able to leap from fresh body to fresh body as needed. Eventually discarding the original body completely.

[LopEaredGaloot]

Since even battledroids are more vastly dextrous than eitquette and utility systems like 3PO and R2, it would seem to me that they form, by far, the most useful labor component of any attempt to create an automated assembly system.

Given as well that you are looking at at least several dozen ships to transport '200,000 units' of clones (@16K per Acclamator, plus a battlegroup escort)-

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Anaxes.jpg

As having to be created in a single decade (from the time the overall 'Project Knightfall' effort apparently began with the ordering of the Clones).

And the automation presented in the Geonosian foundry is anything but advanced looking, I also have to wonder exactly how hard it would be to build an all robotic industrial system which avoided the security compromise and diplomatic delays of negotiated agreements.

SW Battledroids certainly seem to lack the intelligence for realtime innovative response inherent to solving tactical problems in a combat condition and there are other elements of their construction which seem frankly primitive.

They are not for instance using exotic fields to sublimate metals and avoid disrupting the native crystal shapes and incurring oxygen embrittlement that is shown in the Geonosian process where simple thermal liquification and open transport in forge pots could lead to massive amounts of impurities.

Nor are they using nannite clusters to cut complicated shapes from a single forge casting without further stamping/machining stresses. Instead, you see simple robotic armatures.

In fact, I would say this-

AOTC Droid Factory Remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPU0XOoiBjA

and this-

Terminator 2 Ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us3ggae8-Ec

Are largely similar and Skynet is suposedly only a few decades more advanced than -our- present day.

When you consider the fact that Dark Factory level automation is largely about removing human error from a given manufacturing process and that the one reason we couldn't make it work in the 1980s was because we couldn't find repairmen fast and smart enough to fix the automation, the droids form the perfect (instant training, 24/7/365 work ethic, never age out, totally interchangeable) workforce to create massive fleets in just a few years. Even without Von Neuman (machines making machines, by identical component replication).

The logical deduction being that Count Dooku and Palpatine both were operating at the edge of their finances to sustain TWO war efforts. And so cut costs on everything to make them cheap and (mass production) profitable to replace was likely. See the performance of nominally superior droids vs. mere clones as an example.

'Only a metallurgist would know' if a droid was all that or just a bag of chips.

Similarly, there is no need to indulge in negotiations for resources when 90+% of the galaxy doesn't have M-class worlds on which humans (or presumably humanoid, since they all interact together) lifeforms can exist. Find a hot/tidally stressed binary which has probably shredded or roasted it's life belt planets and rob the outer asteroid belts.

I also wonder if Trek Tech has something that deals with the potential of slamming into planets with near-light masses as a function of shields or intercept systems or whatever. As well as whether the proscriptive reasoning behind 'near miss' hyperspatial travel is ever explained in SW. If there isn't one, then equipping a probe droid with a faulty FTL drive capability and pointing it at Earth/Romulus/Quonos/Vulcan etc. becomes your best bet. Obviously, it can also work on shipyards and the like.

While commando droids are interesting, unless they can mimic the flesh of a living being like a Terminator, I am inclined to believe that you would be better off asking Q for some shape shifters to replace half your robots. Certainly they could be more interesting 'company' if you know what I mean.

"Now Leia! Now Padme`! Oooh Baby!"

The reason for Shape Shifters is of course to infiltrate and identify, not only specific COG planets (which could probably be done by tapping into their comms and watching ship movements). But specific installations. Such as medical and defense and command and control.

If not shapeshifters then how about a Spaarti cylinder? Now you have a a reason to grab samples from frontier worlds.

My rationale being that if I can hit 10-20 centers of gravity planets in each alliance and reduce what's left of the body politic to a disorganized scramble of local system and cluster powers, then I can go in with biologics and wipe out the main populations (or tenth them, it really doesn't matter because what you are attacking is the knowledge base of advanced engineering) then I don't have to fight as strong an enemy.

i.e. Not the alliance approach with threats but the Pearl Harbor modality.

If the Feds and/or other interstellar powers seem too tough, then let's talk time travel. Presumably, given SW Hyperdrives have 'temporal dampers', if Trek ships can do this, then I can too. If not, then we talk stealing an oldfashioned warp ship.

Same deal as before except now I'm dealing with a Cromagnon culture on a single world instead of an interstellar capable one on hundreds. Obviously, for ancient societies like the Vulcans, you might have to go back a bit further and thus 'average' your time travel effects to achieve simultaneous (within 10 years anyway) convergent dominance of the galaxy.

Good ISR = F2T2EA smartness in sorting the shortest possible target list. Multiple cohesive attack vectors = simultaneous threat and removal of defense against same. Temporal preemption = guaranteed force assymetry for the mop up occupation and aftermath.

Better to give a primitive atlatl thrower a composite bow and the technology base for adobe brick houses than to try and 'impress' a Trek era goober that your planet killer is badder than his -could be-. It's the latter factor which becomes an important psychological metric. A man that sees in the workings of archery a form of 'magic' is far more likely to accord you or your metal men the status of G.O.D. than a democrat is to call you king.

It's also another reason to consider Spaarti options. Because you can submliminally program a clone with advanced knowledge his host society has never dreamed of. But which is native to your own. And insodoing (your advance world vs. his primitive one) you also create the seeds of grateful dependence rather than oppressive submission. Since he likely considers himself more a part of your life than his background culture.