A disturbing theory about ST weapons figures
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Asking for people to give this guy a break is futile, even theories with reasoning behind them get jumped on sometimes this guy is dead meat.Colonel Olrik wrote:Just stop it, you guys.
He must have astounding arguments proving the devastation possible with a light buble. Hear him out.
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Theres the site creators reasoning as posted on sb.ok, first up, this site is like a joke right?
Well, it is about a *fictional* subject. Like Obi-Wan said, "Many of
the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view." With that
caveat, I'll address your points below:
> Could you tell me how you came up with these ship specs?
>
> For example your firepower calulations for the turbolasers on star
> wars ships are rated in watts. That would mean i have flashlights more
> powerfull than them...
Well, kilowatts to be precise. Going by the RPG stats and the Essential
Guides, SW materials seem to be unusally fragile compared with average
humanoids. A hand-held "disruptor" is supposedly capable of reducing a
one square meter plate of durasteel half a meter thick to ash with a
single shot, yet that same bolt will "only" inflict a horrible (but
potentially survivable, albeit extremely rarely) wound on an average
humanoid (who in turn can be felled by a 14mps arrow).
As for the ISD turbolasers themselves, the Impstar Deuce filming model
uses the 14"/45 guns from a similarly-scaled King George V battleship
model kit for its main weapons, so I figured that, in overall power
output, a turbolaser would compare with a hand blaster the way the
British 14"/45 gun compares with a Mauser pistol. From there, the
blasters are scaled by using the stats provided in Wizards of the
Coast's revised RPG comparing blaster pistols to the 14m/s arrows fired
by the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi, and then the raw power output is
reduced by a hundred (to represent how modern SW blasters are far more
advanced than the brute-force beam-tubes and Sith blast rifles, which
need more power to do the same amount of damage).
> If this site is ment to be a joke i apollogise in advance.
Well, what it comes down to is that I see Star Wars as a action-oriented
fantasy involving humanoids who look like - but are *not* the same
species as - Homo Sapiens, and thus many of the physical and
technological baselines (or even physical laws) that we take for granted
in shows about a possible future of human beings don't necessarily apply
to it. In the Star Wars movies, World War 2 air combat tactics are not
only the norm, but desirable in space-space combat - and indeed, IMHO is
an important part of what makes Star Wars so successful at the box
office. (So successful that Star Trek has tried to duplicate it, often
with less than stellar results.)
The website does deliberately ignore most official material, and takes
some creative liberties with what has seen onscreen (i.e. using the
presence of 2 Millenium Falcon-standard YT-1300s in "First Contact" as
proof of a ST-SW crossover). It's merely my own *interpretation* of
that adventure-junkie paradise also known as the Galaxy Far Far Away
(where the tools you have to fight with aren't as important as the will
to fight in the first place). For what "real" <g> Star Wars is, that's
what the movies and the official website at www.starwars.com (or a
face-to-face with George Lucas) is for.
He must... I mean, he expects us not to critisize it when he takes physics and decides they need not apply and so tosses science and math out the window and just combines the biggest words he can think of for large numbers to trek... as for his section on SW, maybe he looked out the power output on his computer and decided it could have a little more than that?TheDarkling wrote:I cant believe he came here .
Someone over at SB did tell him to come here (and there) but I cant believe he would, the guy must have a death wish.
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He must... I mean, he expects us not to critisize it when he takes physics and decides they need not apply and so tosses science and math out the window and just combines the biggest words he can think of for large numbers to trek... as for his section on SW, maybe he looked out the power output on his computer and decided it could have a little more than that?TheDarkling wrote:I cant believe he came here .
Someone over at SB did tell him to come here (and there) but I cant believe he would, the guy must have a death wish.
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So basically his reasoning is
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
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The sovvie info is based on CANON speculation. The executer was almost 8 km long, and since star trek is more advanced, it must have bigger ships!Imperial Federation wrote:So basically his reasoning is
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
I don't think this is the guy...Demiurge wrote:The sovvie info is based on CANON speculation. The executer was almost 8 km long, and since star trek is more advanced, it must have bigger ships!Imperial Federation wrote:So basically his reasoning is
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
I mean.. "canon speculation"? So basically it *is* really all just made up. Ok, now that that's been cleared up...
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Demiurge wrote:The sovvie info is based on CANON speculation. The executer was almost 8 km long, and since star trek is more advanced, it must have bigger ships!Imperial Federation wrote:So basically his reasoning is
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
That's bullshit! Read this site you moron!
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Canon explanation? I think not.Demiurge wrote:The sovvie info is based on CANON speculation.Imperial Federation wrote:So basically his reasoning is
"Star Wars is fantasy therefore I can make up whatever the hell I like about it even if it's complete and utter bullshit"
Right.
Did he deign to explain his Uber-Sovereign?
More like cannon explanation, i.e. the cannon that you stuck your head in depriving you of much needed oxygen to your brain.
Hardy har har, dimwit.The executer was almost 8 km long, and since star trek is more advanced, it must have bigger ships!
If you're serious, you need help.
If you're joking, you still need help.
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