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Matt Huang wrote:ST Subspace:
Exposure to ST subspace can drive humans mad
All the more reason for SW engineers to design their technology so that humans are not directly exposed to it.
ST subspace interacts with "normal" space through a variety of ways (subspace rifts, subspace shockwaves a la praxix, warp drives)
See Alderaan explosion "fire rings". And spacetime distortion equipment is used in SW as well. The fact that they don't explicitly call it "subspace" is irrelevant. Unless you can define what ST subspace is, you really haven't got much of anything. Frankly, it sounds like a catchall term for everything they don't understand.
Lifeforms that exist in ST subspace manifest in realspace (photonic life forms, deep-subspace domain lifeforms, etc)
More evidence that subspace is just some twist upon realspace. The original TM suggested that subspace was just anything in warp, which is actually twisted realspace.
Omega particles destroy subspace
And they have an effect upon realspace as well. Find me evidence of something which is known to exclusively affect realspace but not subspace, or vice versa.
Subspace can be "folded" by a transporter system
So can realspace, since they can make objects pass through one another.
Gravatational fields can bend the rules of physics, certain materials can shield against these effects (not explicitly stated as subspace, but how else can you explain the whole Delphic expanse stuff?)
Again, not an example of something which indicates that subspace is wholly separate from realspace.
Quantum singularaties are linked to subspace
See above.
subspace can be used to send communications.
See above.
To my knowledge, SW subspace only does communications.
"Appeal to ignorance" fallacy.

You cannot even prove that subspace is truly separate from realspace, yet you argue that SW has no way of interacting with it in any way. Why?
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Matt Huang wrote:
SirNitram wrote:And what among this indicates they are different? All you've shown is that ST uses Subspace more. Not surprising: SW used it tens of thousands of years ago.

It should be noted, however, subspace is used for both sensors and communications in the mid-ranges.
If ST subspace interacts with normal space of it's own accord and SW doesn't, that's all I need to distinguish between the two.
Except that in 'normal' space it does nothing of the sort. It sits there.
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