Federation Vs New Republic pre Vector Prime

Admiral_K · Post by **Admiral_K** » 2002-09-11 02:19pm

It is common knolwedge that the New Republic is militarily rather pathetic compared to the Empire. Do the Feddies have a chance at this stage? Assume post Dominion war, but without allies. Assume that both parties have been manipulated into believing the other must be destroyed or forced to surender for their own survival. No outsider interference from Vong etc.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-11 02:50pm

The Lusyanka is still in service as is at least twenty ISDs, That task force would be more than enough to Destroy the Feddys

A Tweleve ship group, Lusyanka, and eleven ISD's plus eight Mon Cals for D would be more than enough to put down the Feddys and they have those ships avaible

Admiral_K · Post by **Admiral_K** » 2002-09-13 12:54am

Lets up the Ante a bit. Assume Feds have all the allies they had during the dominion war. Do they have enough now to repell an attack?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-09-13 01:15am

Well, if several thousand Romulan troops were expected to conquer Vulcan, I think the Lusankya and her taskforce has enough troops (REAL ground troops) to take over several worlds. Considering that NR ships are on par, powerwise, with Imp ships, each of the ships in the taskforce should be able to hold off the allied AQ fleet for several minutes at the very least.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-13 02:30am

Shit, this goes to the New Republic. They not only had thier Mon Calamari MC-80, 80a's, and 80 b's they also had at least one MC-90 and a larger more powerful Mon Calamari cruiser at thier disposal. This force alone would be hell to handle. Plus the added Lusankya, and the numerous ISDs, RSDs, DSDs along with that.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-09-13 03:30am

Jeez, the New Republic is weaker than the Empire, but probably not by more than an order of magnitude or so. I mean, you can't just demilitarize millions of warships, even over the course of two decades. Even just one tenth of one percent of the warships that the Empire had could decimate the Alpha Quadrant... and I seriously doubt that the New Republic had that low of a number.

Now, whether or not the NR could (or would) dedicate a significant amount of ships to the task... that's the question. Then again... ten heavy warships (and supply ships) would be sufficient to lay waste to the Alpha Quadrant. Not conquer it, mind you... just blow lots of shit up.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-09-13 03:49am

You also have the Vengannce class cruiser from Jedi Knight, which seems to e accepted, as it fits, nicely into the Heavy cruiser slot, that was never destroyed.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-09-13 03:55pm

The New Repulbic could win easily enough that the costs could be hidden by most any battlegroup commander in his normal budget..

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-09-13 06:41pm

The New Republic has less ships then the Empire, but those ships are on the average more powerful.

And they still have the FTL speed, range, realspace speed, power, defenses, size, resources, and industrial capacity that the Empire had, and those are the real important things.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-09-13 10:44pm

Ender wrote:The New Republic has less ships then the Empire, but those ships are on the average more powerful.

And they still have the FTL speed, range, realspace speed, power, defenses, size, resources, and industrial capacity that the Empire had, and those are the real important things.

Yes, having every advantage is an important thing in my book..

HBMC · Post by **HBMC** » 2002-09-13 11:40pm

I agree that in a strait out war, the NR would kick serious ass (but as SPOOFE said, they'd just damage stuff, they wouldn't actually conquer the Feds) but the NR has pretty "passive" commanders from all I've seen. I know that it was stated that both sides want to destroy each other, but would the NR ever commit the forces they need at once, or would they do it piecemeal, dragging out conflicts that could've taken hours into days and so on.

BYE

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-10-23 09:42pm

I forgot, but one of the sourcebooks indicated that by the BFC Trilogy, the New Republic Navy's fighting strength was near that of the Empire at its height (prior to ANH). Of course this doesn't take into account over a decade of wartime production and technological advancement, so while they may be as powerful as the pre-ANH Imperial Starfleet, they're actually smaller. And the NR isn't that pathetic. Newer vessels like the Defender-class SD, which packs the firepower of the ISD into a Victory Star Destroyer-sized package (technological advancement + elimination of troop complement and large fighter/landing craft support), and the new Viscount-class Star Defender is believed to be a Mon Cal style ship that's pure military and has learned from the early Mon Cal's design flaws and is around 8 km long or so. The NR fields a lot of greater-than-ISD ships by this time.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-23 10:15pm

HBMC wrote:I agree that in a strait out war, the NR would kick serious ass (but as SPOOFE said, they'd just damage stuff, they wouldn't actually conquer the Feds) but the NR has pretty "passive" commanders from all I've seen. I know that it was stated that both sides want to destroy each other, but would the NR ever commit the forces they need at once, or would they do it piecemeal, dragging out conflicts that could've taken hours into days and so on.

BYE

You said that both forces believed that they HAD to destroy the other to survive. In that case, the NR wouldn't hesitate to send in all available forces.

arctic_series · Post by **arctic_series** » 2002-10-25 08:41am

if the new republic has anything that can wack an acclamator silly then they've won.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-25 09:19am

arctic_series wrote:if the new republic has anything that can wack an acclamator silly then they've won.

The New Republic has that kind of firepower. Not in the same numbers that the Empire had but certainly enough to stomp all over the AQ powers.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-10-25 08:06pm

The Lusankya and a escort of 20 ISDs and another 20 MC-80s (or 90s) could blow up the Feds.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-26 12:12am

if i understand correctally MC-90's are almost equils of ISD's

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-10-26 01:09pm

Yeah, they are. They were designed specifically for warfare and were more then capable in the NR fleet.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-10-26 03:47pm

Isolder74 wrote:if i understand correctally MC-90's are almost equils of ISD's

They are at least equals of ISDs, possibly better.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-10-26 05:39pm

They should be, they were designed for pure warfare, for blowing up SDs, and holding territory, where ISDs were designed to keep the piece and basically be jack-of-all-trades ships. They were also designed what....20...15 years later?

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