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Ok, I'm involved in a small Star Trek online gaming fleet. Recently, the debate over Star Wars vs. Star Trek came up. Although I'm a Star Trek fan (boo...hiss...you suck) I voted for Star Wars because, obviously, Star Wars tech kicks the shit out of Star Trek tech. The thing is, none of my friends will accept this. They continue to say things like "the borg would assimilate one storm trooper and would build the Death Star" and "turbolasers are LASERS". Their favorite is the use of the "Omega Molecule" as a suicide attack.

Now, these guys are idiots/fanatics...yes. But, they're still my friends. Is there anyway that I can convince these dudes that they are being idiots? Or have they completly turned to the darkside...never to come back? If only Mr. Wong could debate them for 10 minutes...hehehe

P.S. Do you have any quick, decisive facts I could throw out against them that would baffle them? I've already used the hyperdrive advantage over warp, firepower advantage, and some of the other basics...but it hasn't gotten through to them. Also, how can I defend against the Omega molecule? It seems like they have a point: if they find a cluster of ISD's and other ships, they could suicide bomb. Thanks a lot :)
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Butterbean569 wrote:Ok, I'm involved in a small Star Trek online gaming fleet. Recently, the debate over Star Wars vs. Star Trek came up. Although I'm a Star Trek fan (boo...hiss...you suck) I voted for Star Wars because, obviously, Star Wars tech kicks the shit out of Star Trek tech. The thing is, none of my friends will accept this. They continue to say things like "the borg would assimilate one storm trooper and would build the Death Star" and "turbolasers are LASERS". Their favorite is the use of the "Omega Molecule" as a suicide attack.

Now, these guys are idiots/fanatics...yes. But, they're still my friends. Is there anyway that I can convince these dudes that they are being idiots? Or have they completly turned to the darkside...never to come back? If only Mr. Wong could debate them for 10 minutes...hehehe

P.S. Do you have any quick, decisive facts I could throw out against them that would baffle them? I've already used the hyperdrive advantage over warp, firepower advantage, and some of the other basics...but it hasn't gotten through to them. Also, how can I defend against the Omega molecule? It seems like they have a point: if they find a cluster of ISD's and other ships, they could suicide bomb. Thanks a lot :)
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unknown trekkie wrote:"the borg would assimilate one storm trooper and would build the Death Star"
Borg assimilation only gives you the know-how if the assimilated being has the knowledge in question in the first place. Tell them to prove that a stormtrooper or any imperial officer for that matter knows how to build a Death Star. Furthermore ask them where the borg would get the resources to build a Death Star that has a volume equivalent to millions of cubes.
"turbolasers are LASERS"
Some examples I've seen from this forum and others: then a Star Destroyer can destroy stars, mechanical engines have horses powering them because they produce "horsepower".

For other examples, go to the main page, click on "Technology", then click on "Sci-fi tech myths" then click on "Myths involving misconceptions about Star Wars". Its number five on the list at the top of the page. Blueprints, rifles, cannons.
use of the "Omega Molecule" as a suicide attack
Tell them to get an actual yield for the omega molecule and more importantly, the quantity. IIRC, they only stated property was that it exceeds the energy output of M/AM reactions.
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Star Trek uses Phaser BANKS! A Star Destroyer won't be affected at all if Picard decides to throw all his LIFE SAVINGS at them!!!111
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What, are Star Trek people going to defeat the Empire by writing CHECKS?!?! Maybe by asking for a LOAN??? C'mon!
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Slartibartfast wrote:A Star Destroyer won't be affected at all if Picard decides to throw all his LIFE SAVINGS at them
And then.....
Slartibartfast wrote:What, are Star Trek people going to defeat the Empire by writing CHECKS?!?! Maybe by asking for a LOAN??? C'mon!
I didn't think such things existed in the Federation's moneyless economy. If you wanted them to fight the Empire that way, they'd be unarmed!
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Slartibartfast wrote:What, are Star Trek people going to defeat the Empire by writing CHECKS?!?! Maybe by asking for a LOAN??? C'mon!
Oh, come on. That clearly isn't what's meant by a phaser 'bank'. They're obviously talking about river banks. :P
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Darth Servo wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:What, are Star Trek people going to defeat the Empire by writing CHECKS?!?! Maybe by asking for a LOAN??? C'mon!
Oh, come on. That clearly isn't what's meant by a phaser 'bank'. They're obviously talking about river banks. :P
so they are really just big Squirt guns!
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Darth Servo wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:What, are Star Trek people going to defeat the Empire by writing CHECKS?!?! Maybe by asking for a LOAN??? C'mon!
Oh, come on. That clearly isn't what's meant by a phaser 'bank'. They're obviously talking about river banks. :P
Give me a break, It is SO obvious they are talking about TURNING (Banking turn) So, what they will do, Is circle the ISD's until the bridge commanders are dizzy and throw up, thereby causing an imbalance in the subspace temporal wavelengths in the ISD crew's brain, the resulting neuro-omicron release causing untold levels of disruption in the ISD's nav and drive systems, destablilizing it enough so as to allow a temporary flux in the power system, thereby lowering the ISD shields and allowing use of transporters so they can beam a quantum torpedo into their engine bay and destroy the ship!


THAT, my friends is a PERFECT example of a typical fed plan to overcome a superior enemy. OH, and let's not forget that there will always be a moral to a battle. Not WE KICKED YOUR ASS YOU ARE CONQUERED, But something more akin to picard saying some stupid shit like "This is a sad, sad, day. Think of the knowledge we could have shared, The things we could hav-----"
BLAM. Enterprise just got blowed up from behind by a TIE fighter. Stupid fuckheads.
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