1 SSD vs all of the Federation and It's allies

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-10 11:51pm

This may be iresponseable and this can be shut down if need be (please notify me first) But would a SSD be able to defeat all of the Federation and it's allies if set loose in the Alpha Quadrant. Or would it be destroyed before it could conquer all.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-10 11:54pm

Sayonara Feds.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-10 11:54pm

Depends on the SSD. The Executor has about 5-7 ISDs worth of shielding. Sovereign and Eclipse are magnitudes higher.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-10 11:56pm

Alyeska wrote:Depends on the SSD. The Executor has about 5-7 ISDs worth of shielding. Sovereign and Eclipse are magnitudes higher.

Different ship class.

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-10 11:57pm

Executor give me what it would be on low to high calcs.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-10 11:58pm

Do it yourself, you lazy child.

Akira · Post by **Akira** » 2002-10-10 11:58pm

Even using your calcs for the SSD, the allied fleet would wipe the floor with it.

1 ship vs 30k+ ships? I don't think so.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-10 11:58pm

LOL, Akira you make me laugh.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-11 12:02am

FettKyle wrote:Executor give me what it would be on low to high calcs.

Best I can say is that the Mon Remonda when broadside outguns an Executor bearing in. The Lusankya was taken down by 150 torpedoes/missiles (fighter grade) as well as a single ISD and an Alderanian War Cruiser (think Carrack Cruiser only more HTLs). The Lusankya didn't have very good fighter support and the captain was a little arogant. It took time to knock those shields down and even then it was sections compared to ISDs and Mon Cals knocking eachothers shields out in a handful of volleys and having all the shields down rather then just sections. This is also based on the Executor's shields being holed (allowing the A-Wings to get through) and then partially knocked out when there was only a handful of Rebel ships near by (less then a dozen, not even half being Mon Cal cruisers).

The Executor survived the Hyperspace rentry collision of 3 ISDs, though that would be without shields IMO and ISD shields are significantly more powerful then just hull armor, so 3 Kamikazie ISDs without shields likely total much less firepower then 7 ISDs worth of broadsides.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-10-11 12:03am

IG-88E wrote:LOL, Akira you make me laugh.

Depending on the tactical and strategic situation I agree with the outcome, but disagree with the allied fleet count.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-11 12:04am

Here's the strategy I would use were I captain of the SSD:

1. 'Hit and hype' attacks. Drop out of hyper, blow away a capship or two, jump back up.

2. Continue this for a while around the borders of the Feds and its allies (that would be...who?) occaisionally blowing away a spacedock.

3. Hit Federation HQ and HIT IT HARD. Blast anything within twenety miles of San Francisco.

4. Broadcast footage of the attack to all member worlds of the Federation.

5. Hit and hype any outpost that declares itself to oppose me.

6. Hit DS9. God I want that station dead.

Any refinements would be appreciated.

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-11 12:04am

Do it yourself, you lazy child.

I'm baffeled. And why are you sooo mean.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-11 12:08am

Because you are an immature kid who possesses little scientific knowledge and makes everyone else give him information, not bothering to look things up for himself.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-11 12:12am

the SSD if it is the executor class may run out of fuel, ammo and pilots for it's fighters before it completely waste the AQ, we already knew from a from much older thread what the Eclipse could do in the AQ, bloodbath on a grand scale for the AQ.

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-11 12:12am

I would ALSO take a Tactical Borg Cube tractor beam it drag it in to hyperspace and then Show the federation how easy it is just to destroy one that should scare the Bjesus out of them.

1. 'Hit and hype' attacks. Drop out of hyper, blow away a capship or two, jump back up.

2. Continue this for a while around the borders of the Feds and its allies (that would be...who?) occaisionally blowing away a spacedock.

3. Hit Federation HQ and HIT IT HARD. Blast anything within twenety miles of San Francisco.

4. Broadcast footage of the attack to all member worlds of the Federation.

5. Hit and hype any outpost that declares itself to oppose me.

6. Hit DS9. God I want that station dead.

Any refinements would be appreciated.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-11 12:15am

starfury wrote:the SSD if it is the executor class may run out of fuel, ammo and pilots for it's fighters before it completely waste the AQ

Were not talking about the AQ, just the Feds and their 'allies'.

Fettkyle wrote:I would ALSO take a Tactical Borg Cube tractor beam it drag it in to hyperspace and then Show the federation how easy it is just to destroy one that should scare the Bjesus out of them

Good idea. A quick hop to the Detla Quad and then come back to find the Feds cowering in the dark corners.

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-11 12:19am

Because you are an immature kid who possesses little scientific knowledge and makes everyone else give him information, not bothering to look things up for himself.

I do look up things. I'm learning. And at least I can boost a little scientific knowledge unlike some people I know my age.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-11 12:23am

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=1557

yep this is that old thread on a Eclipse battleship/command ship vs the entire AQ as opposed to the current Executor command ship vs just the federation and it's allies.

Akira · Post by **Akira** » 2002-10-11 12:25am

Define "allies", when is the SSD attacking? After/Before the dominion war? If after, before Voyager comes back? Before the 2nd Borg attacked? TOS?

The number of ships/power levels of ships would depend on when the SSD attacks. as would who is allied with the UFP. If it's during/just after the Dominion war, then the UFP's allies incude the RSE. I wonder what would happen with 6-8000 cloaked Warbirds moving on the SSD?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-10-11 12:30am

Akira wrote:Define "allies", when is the SSD attacking? After/Before the dominion war? If after, before Voyager comes back? Before the 2nd Borg attacked? TOS?

The number of ships/power levels of ships would depend on when the SSD attacks. as would who is allied with the UFP. If it's during/just after the Dominion war, then the UFP's allies incude the RSE. I wonder what would happen with 6-8000 cloaked Warbirds moving on the SSD?

In all likelihood the Romulan ships would be sent packing after a few shots, or they would be wiped out before the SSD runs away, only to repeat the same exercise again once its shields and weapons have time to charge.

Seriously, the only thing preventing the SSD from winning this entire scenario is a lack of soldiers.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-11 12:30am

Akira wrote:Define "allies", when is the SSD attacking? After/Before the dominion war? If after, before Voyager comes back? Before the 2nd Borg attacked? TOS?

Good point, Akira

I wonder what would happen with 6-8000 cloaked Warbirds moving on the SSD?

ROTFLMAO!!! You think the Roms could gather that many 'birds in time for a strike from a ship that has a FTL drive hundreds of times faster than their's?

Post by **Coyote** » 2002-10-11 12:30am

Heeheehee!

Simple! The SSD makes it obvius that it is going to attack Earth. The Feds gather at some arbitrary place like... Wolf 359, or some other waypoint. The Fed fleet forms its line and the SSD comes in and the captain simply says,

"Shields at max. Move forward."

*crunch*crunch*crunch* etc.

"Ensign, windshield wipers, please. Okay. Proceed."

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-11 12:32am

Coyote wrote:Heeheehee!

Simple! The SSD makes it obvius that it is going to attack Earth. The Feds gather at some arbitrary place like... Wolf 359, or some other waypoint. The Fed fleet forms its line and the SSD comes in and the captain simply says,

"Shields at max. Move forward."

*crunch*crunch*crunch* etc.

"Ensign, windshield wipers, please. Okay. Proceed."

Althogh that's pretty close to what would happen, the SSD would'nt NEED to stop at Wolf. Unless maybe they wanted to show off a little...

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2002-10-11 01:35am

The UFP and its allies don't stand a chance. Not only does the SSD have enough firepower and shielding to take down the largest fleets they can assemble, but its hyperdrive allows it to fight where it wants, wherever it wants to. If the objective is pure destruction rather than taking and holding territory, the SSD will easily bring the Feds to their knees.

FettKyle · Post by **FettKyle** » 2002-10-11 01:42am

The SSD mission is Genocide. also this is a little after STI. Now do you think the chances would diminish if 29 century ST came in.