Rather simplistic analysis, but he gets the point...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-05-26 10:16pm

The Empire rules Sci-Fi. This'd be about the last guy I'd think would be into sci-fi versus. Oh well, learn something new every day.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-05-27 03:33am

allright seems fun to read, ill give it a try

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-05-27 06:30am

For what it's worth, he's wrong about the MIB universe. While the MIB themselves can't do much, the Arquelians did have a planet killer of some sort which was implied to be able to destroy a world, and certainly the tesseracted galaxy would suggest that it could, and if the intro to MIB two is to be taken at face value, that diddy ship had about half a dozen different planet destroyers crammed into it.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-05-27 07:37am

i like his description of the Enterprise

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-05-27 07:57am

I like this guys line of reasoning. He may not be familiar with the versus debates but his reasoning is good.

aten_vs_ra · Post by **aten_vs_ra** » 2004-05-27 09:51am

I like his idea that Garibaldi will end up a used starfighter dealer.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-05-27 10:24am

Not to mention his vision about Clinton

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-05-27 02:44pm

ROTFLMAO!!!

Star Destroyer = BIG ASS EVIL DORITO CHIP!

Darth Phoenix · Post by **Darth Phoenix** » 2004-05-27 02:54pm

What about the Empire versus the USA? With President Clinton? Heck, Slick Willie would make a deal so fast it would put Lando to shame. I can just see Clinton Chuckling - "Yeah, you can have all the republicans... if I can just have Leia and Mon Mothma together with a box of Cubans..."

ROTFLMAO

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-05-27 07:19pm

NecronLord wrote:For what it's worth, he's wrong about the MIB universe. While the MIB themselves can't do much, the Arquelians did have a planet killer of some sort which was implied to be able to destroy a world, and certainly the tesseracted galaxy would suggest that it could, and if the intro to MIB two is to be taken at face value, that diddy ship had about half a dozen different planet destroyers crammed into it.

But remember, those might have been tiny planets, like the golf ball-sized one in the MIB lab.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-05-28 02:55am

YT300000 wrote:But remember, those might have been tiny planets, like the golf ball-sized one in the MIB lab.

They'd have to be considerably larger than that. Given that the ship visibly orbited a few of them before destroying them.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2004-05-28 06:29am

Apparently, someone should tell this guy that SciFi isn't limited to TV

, but has über book-universes as well ( *cough* Culture *cough* Xeelee *cough*

)...

And aren't Farscape's Peacekeepers rated as near GE-level

?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-05-28 08:43am

The Nomad wrote:And aren't Farscape's Peacekeepers rated as near GE-level ?

Well, this is really a matter for OSF, but the peacekeepers are a little strange. They seem lacking in direct fire weaponary, (I still stick by Frag Cannons as point defence guns.) but they have faster than light missiles, and some very impressive explosives (Their leftovers made quite an impressive bomb, screenshots of which I can provide if ya want, in Family Ties.). Apparently a command carrier can 'destroy a planet' so at least depopulate. They do talk about being on a galactic scale, (on Katraski) "If the Scarrans loose this base, this part of the galaxy will be lost to them" or some such, but they don't seem to be on the scale of the Galactic Empire.

Certainly far closer than the Federation, and with more credible ground forces.

And there's a number of things on the BBC's sci-fi that would stomp the Empire through the floor (can we say, Vogons?

)

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-28 08:48am

NecronLord wrote:Certainly far closer than the Federation, and with more credible ground forces.

Their ground forces are somewhat idiotic. Of course, I'm referring to the pilot episode, where Crichton was handled by the two dumbest PK soldiers in the entire universe.

PK1: "What this, then?" (referring to Crichton's necklace/"lucky charm")

PK2: "It's a weapon! Give it here!"

PK3: "No, it's mine!"

Too stupid to live...

Of course, then there were the other PK episodes which showed that the PKs were at least competent.

*sigh* I miss that show...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-05-28 09:05am

Meh. For what it's worth, only one of those two was particularly stupid, it was both him playing with the toy, and him who allowed a prisoner to retrieve his (backup) sidearm.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-05-28 02:11pm

Question, and forgive me if this is off-topic, but has anyone ever made a list of who could be ass-kicked by the Empire and who could take them on and win? I dont think there has ever been an attempt at a general list.

Murazor · Post by **Murazor** » 2004-05-28 02:13pm

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Question, and forgive me if this is off-topic, but has anyone ever made a list of who could be ass-kicked by the Empire and who could take them on and win? I dont think there has ever been an attempt at a general list.

Several lists I remember, both here and in Spacebattles. Necronlord himself developed one once.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2004-05-29 04:46am

NecronLord wrote: And there's a number of things on the BBC's sci-fi that would stomp the Empire through the floor (can we say, Vogons? )

Vogon poetry alone could cause a Culture Mind to self-destruct

.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-05-29 05:04am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Question, and forgive me if this is off-topic, but has anyone ever made a list of who could be ass-kicked by the Empire and who could take them on and win? I dont think there has ever been an attempt at a general list.

There was once a thread on civilizations that could defeat the Empire once. It is buried somewhere within the depths of the Other SciFi forum.