Conquered AQ + Limited Resources - Defend from Borg
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Conquered AQ + Limited Resources - Defend from Borg
You're the Imperial Military Authority in the AQ/BQ. You've conquered the entire civilizations of the Federation, Romulan Star Empire, Klingon Empire, and the Ferengi. To take an idea from Stravo's fic, you've installed your rule using the Romulan Star Empire and your proxy due to limited resources and a relatively small fleet.
You've learned the Borg have made 100% mobilization and production and research and have effectively squashed all resistence in the Delta Quadrant and have proceeded occupying, assimilating, and developing sections of the Gamma Quadrant. Unassailable threats, such as isolationist advanced civilizations that have previously opposed Borg assimilation have simply been walled off/blockaded/ignored. A new logic stream has inexplicably infected the Collective, giving them the gifts of thought, strategy, and efficiency as well as common sense. Innovation and wartime production is increasing exponentially. The Borg have assimilated by freak chance an Imperial Interdictor Cruiser. They were able to learn passing knowledge and most Imperial systems, but are mostly unable to duplicate them, only develop extremely rudimentary and vastly below effective countermeasures. But, nevertheless they have an ability to comprehend our abilities without having lost significant forces to us and will grow more able to counter them with time. They did, however, develop a version of the gravity-well projector near-Imperial standards. Deployment of this technology as well as other new implementations will make a "beheading" attack on the Unimatrix unrealistic. The Borg Collective has rescended all endevours that are not associated with the defeat and assimilation of the Imperial-occupied Alpha Quadrant. Remember: the Borg are fully mobilized and are now strategically thinking, including a crash program in affective groud combat and tactical space combat. Full research into Borg Starfleet diversification has begun and already many of the technologies brought back by Janeway and Voyager are being countered and their tactical value being progressively negated. They have set the timetable for conquest of Alpha Quadrant at three years form the present day.
You have three fleets on par with Death Squadron + support forces that assaulted Hoth and a few other spare ships. You also have several heavy/fleet carriers and troop transports. You do not have any Executor-class ships. You have been able to set up a crude shipyard in orbit around Earth capable (right now) of producing ships up to Carrack Cruiser size and are in possession of say...a pair of "deepdocks" (hyperspace-capable mobile platforms/docks). A pair of neutronium forges are being set up/jerry-rigged at nearby pulsar. You have enough Imperial technology to eventually move the AQ up to par but not for several decades. You've taken very light casualties (among Imperial forces, not Romulan allies') in the brief war of conquest. The Federation fleet has been reduced to half-strength, as has the Klingon fleet. The Romulans have suffered 1/4 casualties to their fleet. Strategic planners estimate that at the current rate of modernization and production (including construction of new shipyards and implementation of Imperial techniques), in 1.5 to 2 years the fleets can be restored completely plus significant surplus fleet resources. Voyager has returned with all of its technology and knocked out a transwarp conduit leading to Earth. Resistence forces in the AQ seen as mild annoyance, will likely capitulate and Federation Section 31 will help in our efforts. With the announcement of the Borg Invasion Threat, it is likely the Alpha Quadrant will completely accept our rule and begin full-support of our war preparations.
You can only build a few more forces, and the ability to begin construction on the scale of ISDs is not considered cost-efficient, not withstanding the lack of Imperial personnel to man such a vessel. You can retrofit a number of AQ ships with our technology and that of Voyager as well, but remember all of our technology is limited in how much we can retrofit theri ships. It is highly likely we will be able to deploy superior shield techology for their ships as well as a much more superior FTL drive.
What will you do, Admiral?
You've learned the Borg have made 100% mobilization and production and research and have effectively squashed all resistence in the Delta Quadrant and have proceeded occupying, assimilating, and developing sections of the Gamma Quadrant. Unassailable threats, such as isolationist advanced civilizations that have previously opposed Borg assimilation have simply been walled off/blockaded/ignored. A new logic stream has inexplicably infected the Collective, giving them the gifts of thought, strategy, and efficiency as well as common sense. Innovation and wartime production is increasing exponentially. The Borg have assimilated by freak chance an Imperial Interdictor Cruiser. They were able to learn passing knowledge and most Imperial systems, but are mostly unable to duplicate them, only develop extremely rudimentary and vastly below effective countermeasures. But, nevertheless they have an ability to comprehend our abilities without having lost significant forces to us and will grow more able to counter them with time. They did, however, develop a version of the gravity-well projector near-Imperial standards. Deployment of this technology as well as other new implementations will make a "beheading" attack on the Unimatrix unrealistic. The Borg Collective has rescended all endevours that are not associated with the defeat and assimilation of the Imperial-occupied Alpha Quadrant. Remember: the Borg are fully mobilized and are now strategically thinking, including a crash program in affective groud combat and tactical space combat. Full research into Borg Starfleet diversification has begun and already many of the technologies brought back by Janeway and Voyager are being countered and their tactical value being progressively negated. They have set the timetable for conquest of Alpha Quadrant at three years form the present day.
You have three fleets on par with Death Squadron + support forces that assaulted Hoth and a few other spare ships. You also have several heavy/fleet carriers and troop transports. You do not have any Executor-class ships. You have been able to set up a crude shipyard in orbit around Earth capable (right now) of producing ships up to Carrack Cruiser size and are in possession of say...a pair of "deepdocks" (hyperspace-capable mobile platforms/docks). A pair of neutronium forges are being set up/jerry-rigged at nearby pulsar. You have enough Imperial technology to eventually move the AQ up to par but not for several decades. You've taken very light casualties (among Imperial forces, not Romulan allies') in the brief war of conquest. The Federation fleet has been reduced to half-strength, as has the Klingon fleet. The Romulans have suffered 1/4 casualties to their fleet. Strategic planners estimate that at the current rate of modernization and production (including construction of new shipyards and implementation of Imperial techniques), in 1.5 to 2 years the fleets can be restored completely plus significant surplus fleet resources. Voyager has returned with all of its technology and knocked out a transwarp conduit leading to Earth. Resistence forces in the AQ seen as mild annoyance, will likely capitulate and Federation Section 31 will help in our efforts. With the announcement of the Borg Invasion Threat, it is likely the Alpha Quadrant will completely accept our rule and begin full-support of our war preparations.
You can only build a few more forces, and the ability to begin construction on the scale of ISDs is not considered cost-efficient, not withstanding the lack of Imperial personnel to man such a vessel. You can retrofit a number of AQ ships with our technology and that of Voyager as well, but remember all of our technology is limited in how much we can retrofit theri ships. It is highly likely we will be able to deploy superior shield techology for their ships as well as a much more superior FTL drive.
What will you do, Admiral?
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Hit the nerve points
If the Borg are still dependent upon their transwarp conduit network for fast movement and communication, then one avenue of attack against the Collective would be to destroy the conduit stations in a multi-pronged attack.
The normal inventory of Imperial superweapons is not available, so the best bet would be to mass-produce long-range hyperdrive probes fitted with high-yield warheads, to be launched by the thousands and later the millions to Delta Quadrant targets, hitting the Borg with a swarm attack designed specifically to inflict massive casualties and destroy enemy shipyards and industry, communication facilities, and command and control centres.
The best use for AQ starships would be to retrofit them with hyperdrive technology and utilise them as launch platforms for the drones while leaving the bulk of Imperial forces on standby alert for Borg incursion.
The destruction of the Borg transwarp conduit network will also divide the Collective into discrete sector forces which can be taken on and defeated one by one instead of facing battle on multiple fronts.
The normal inventory of Imperial superweapons is not available, so the best bet would be to mass-produce long-range hyperdrive probes fitted with high-yield warheads, to be launched by the thousands and later the millions to Delta Quadrant targets, hitting the Borg with a swarm attack designed specifically to inflict massive casualties and destroy enemy shipyards and industry, communication facilities, and command and control centres.
The best use for AQ starships would be to retrofit them with hyperdrive technology and utilise them as launch platforms for the drones while leaving the bulk of Imperial forces on standby alert for Borg incursion.
The destruction of the Borg transwarp conduit network will also divide the Collective into discrete sector forces which can be taken on and defeated one by one instead of facing battle on multiple fronts.
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The Imperials are badly outnumbered and there's a possibility the Borg could depoly a primitive hyperdrive by say...six months into the invasion. Your intelligence in Borg Space is limited to actual scouting you launch.
The Empire is badly outnumbered and it is only a matter of time before more technology is developed from the Interdictor and any other ship they may have assimilated. You also have the schematics for the World Devestator, but may only be able to deploy one or two by the end of the three year period.
The Empire is badly outnumbered and it is only a matter of time before more technology is developed from the Interdictor and any other ship they may have assimilated. You also have the schematics for the World Devestator, but may only be able to deploy one or two by the end of the three year period.
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1. SW technology is far above ST tech, so it's not safe to assume that the Borg can reproduce or even assimilate it.The Empire is badly outnumbered and it is only a matter of time before more technology is developed from the Interdictor and any other ship they may have assimilated. You also have the schematics for the World Devestator, but may only be able to deploy one or two by the end of the three year period.
2. Borg cube shielding is around ten gigatons at best, they will fall to the medium and heavy guns like flies.
3. 3 times death squadron makes 3x 30 ISDs and 3 Executors, so let's be generous and say 10 ISDs VSD and 1 Executor.
A HUGE Borg fleet'd be necessary to accomplish anything. A good solution:
just travel to Unimatrix zero with 90% of your ships (leave 2,3 or 4 behind for keeping the allies in line) and blast the shit out of the Borg HQ.
The loss of so many drones should stun them for some time to give you an opportunity to carefully plan your offensive against important strategic transwarp conduit hubs.
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I believe this is known as "Changing the Rules in the Middle of the Game."Illuminatus Primus wrote:The Imperials are badly outnumbered and there's a possibility the Borg could depoly a primitive hyperdrive by say...six months into the invasion. Your intelligence in Borg Space is limited to actual scouting you launch.
The Empire is badly outnumbered and it is only a matter of time before more technology is developed from the Interdictor and any other ship they may have assimilated. You also have the schematics for the World Devestator, but may only be able to deploy one or two by the end of the three year period.
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Very well, not edit option, I couldn't add it last night. Wanted to sleep. Sorry. Well...as Spanky commands, disregard second post.
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Force at Endor was a Sector Group + the Executor, if I remember correctly. Death Squadron was a typical planetary assault force, with 6 SDs, only on ISD was replaced with the Executor. Other ships partipated in the over all operation, but that was Death Squadron. I said no Executors, so that makes 18 ISDs + support craft.
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Ah well that still suffices to attack unimatrix zero, as we know the borg they will possibly concentrate fire on one vessel, so when the shields fail, the ship will simply go to hyperspace (pity the borg don't have interdictors ).
the fact that the borg collective seems to suffer some kind of stunning after a huge number of drones is killed will possibly help during the attack.
Of course with 18 ISD you'd only leave 1 back as guard and also take the whole allied fleet with you.
I'd say a massive frontal assault on the Borg HQ Unimatrix Zero is the best option available due to you to massive firepower and shielding advantadge.
the fact that the borg collective seems to suffer some kind of stunning after a huge number of drones is killed will possibly help during the attack.
Of course with 18 ISD you'd only leave 1 back as guard and also take the whole allied fleet with you.
I'd say a massive frontal assault on the Borg HQ Unimatrix Zero is the best option available due to you to massive firepower and shielding advantadge.
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Does the AQ have reliable intel on the location of the Unimatrix? What about the grav-well generators being developed by the Borg? I understand its a big stretch, but you need it to give the Borg a decent chance. I had to give them the Interdictor to give them a chance.
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According to the scenario, the Borg lack hyperdrive. As such, it's a simple matter to outfit everything with hyperdrives. That gives the AQ ships a definite advantage. Send probots into Borg space to find any vulnerable planets. Then, send 2/3 of your SD force on a multi-pronged BDZ run, each Star Destroyer BDZing two planets before rendezvousing with the others. The death of so many drones will temporarily short out the Collective, allowing for a massive strike at the Unimatrix.
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