The Milky Way Post-Conquest

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

Okay, this is my first post on these boards, and this topic may have been covered previously, but using the search function I found nothing. So without further adue...

Milky Way Post-Conquest Part 1: The Spoils of War

After the Borg, Dominion, everything else are crushed by the Empire's might, it would be very good to bring home new toys for the Empire and citizens to play with.

1. Metaphasic Particles: Citizens still unhappy? Rebellion becoming a popular movement? Wiping out all disease and doubling everyone's lifespan will do the trick! National pride will be restored, the pathetic rebellion will be starved for recruits, and all it costs is some primitives!

2. Borg Nano-repair Technology: The Borg will offer only weak resistance, but their technologies could prove useful: Need to repair your Star Destroyer, but also need to get to a battle in mere minutes? The Borg Nano-Repair systems would prove very useful to the Imperial Navy.

3. Borg Assimilation Technology: Need to seal a wound, but no Bacta Tanks in sight? Need an army of Super-Soldiers with exoskeletons? Pump some nanites into your body, and you'll be right as rain.

4. Transporters: The people of the Empire may or may not have a religious aversion to Transporters, if they don't, shuttles are obsolete, if they do, it will be enormously useful to shipping companies and the like, being able to transport bulk materials to orbiting freighters nearly instantaneously.

5. Cloaking Technology: Some vessels in Star Trek have both sensors AND full weapons capability while cloaked(The Scimitar, that Klingon vessel from ST6), and phase-cloaking would allow the creation of specialized command vessels with only paltry weapons- Not that they would.

Milky Way Post-Conquest Part 2: Next?

Once the Empire has conquered our galxy, they'll have to find a new target, and find it soon. This first target should be obvious: The Mirror Universe. Now, this will be a very odd conquest, since until Empire creates a 10-kilometre long transporter on both sides of the Trekverse, they will only be able to send individual soldiers and small materials or items through to the Mirror-Verse. However, once they have succeeded in capturing the station, they could construct a squadron of TIE Defenders and upgrade the station to become an impenetrable fortress. A massive Transporter would then be constructed to allow the Imperial Navy to pour into the Mirror-Verse, and it would fall just as easily as the Trekverse.

The nest target would probably be S8472, and fluidic space. A single Intrepid wiped out half a dozen of them with its special torpedos, so a Star Destroyer could rape hordes of them.

Well, that's my first post. I know that message boards are a harsh mistress, but hopefully I can survive and not become enslaved.

Signing off,
Me

[Ghost Rider]

1. Metaphasic...unless this can be produced to service even in the millions...be of fun value on some Hutt's Barge.

2. Nano tech power has to come somewhere. And Nano technology is just something of an insane brain bug. Would be relative low usage if they found a way to make sure these things can repair even the material on the ISD.

3. Droids are better for Fodder. Plus Bacta are available in easy to use packages.

4. Actually they have transporters, but moving ship to ship...apparently they use the shuttles to a far better degree.

5. They actually have cloaking that can see out the other way. The Sytigian Cloak that Maul's ship uses is just that...damned expensive but allows a ship to still be cloaked and fire.

[Kurgan]

Wait I thought SW Cloaks are blind as well as being invisible? Or was that changed with Maul's cloak? (I don't recall it being special)

And they have ships that can fire cloaked in Trek (or at least they did, the prototype ship that attacked Chancellor Gorkon to frame the Enterprise-A in ST6).

[Kurgan]

Woops, must be too tired, the cloak thing, for some reason I missed that.
; p

A SW Ship could fire while cloaked, it just wouldnt' see if it hit anything or not, right?

[Ghost Rider]

Woops, must be too tired, the cloak thing, for some reason I missed that.
; p

A SW Ship could fire while cloaked, it just wouldnt' see if it hit anything or not, right?

Actually any SW ship can fired while Cloaked. Maul's was special and was created differently.

It would just be hellishly expensive to upgrade it anything larger then something the size of a frieghter at best.

For Maul it was damned effective, for an ISD it would be an immense waste, since it would be better spending building more crusiers instead.

[Techno_Union]

Woops, must be too tired, the cloak thing, for some reason I missed that.
; p

A SW Ship could fire while cloaked, it just wouldnt' see if it hit anything or not, right?

Yeah, they can fire, move, have shields up, ect. while cloaked. But the down side is the blindess. At least for the current cloak.

[Praxis]

Woops, must be too tired, the cloak thing, for some reason I missed that.
; p

A SW Ship could fire while cloaked, it just wouldnt' see if it hit anything or not, right?

Yeah, they can fire, move, have shields up, ect. while cloaked. But the down side is the blindess. At least for the current cloak.

At least for THRAWN'S cloak. We don't know what other ones might exist.

[Praxis]

Okay, this is my first post on these boards, and this topic may have been covered previously, but using the search function I found nothing. So without further adue...


Milky Way Post-Conquest Part 2: Next?

Once the Empire has conquered our galxy, they'll have to find a new target, and find it soon. This first target should be obvious: The Mirror Universe. Now, this will be a very odd conquest, since until Empire creates a 10-kilometre long transporter on both sides of the Trekverse, they will only be able to send individual soldiers and small materials or items through to the Mirror-Verse. However, once they have succeeded in capturing the station, they could construct a squadron of TIE Defenders and upgrade the station to become an impenetrable fortress. A massive Transporter would then be constructed to allow the Imperial Navy to pour into the Mirror-Verse, and it would fall just as easily as the Trekverse.

UNLESS...The Empire meets its own mirror-universe double.

What would the Empire be like in an alternate universe? Would the Old Republic still be in place, or would it have been the Empire that existed for thousands of years and was replaced with the Republic?

The nest target would probably be S8472, and fluidic space. A single Intrepid wiped out half a dozen of them with its special torpedos, so a Star Destroyer could rape hordes of them.

Assuming that their planets are even habitable. Their space is FLUID, remember?

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

1. Metaphasic Particles: Citizens still unhappy? Rebellion becoming a popular movement? Wiping out all disease and doubling everyone's lifespan will do the trick! National pride will be restored, the pathetic rebellion will be starved for recruits, and all it costs is some primitives!

Can't recall what "Metaphasic Particles" is all about. Could someone explain?

2. Borg Nano-repair Technology: The Borg will offer only weak resistance, but their technologies could prove useful: Need to repair your Star Destroyer, but also need to get to a battle in mere minutes? The Borg Nano-Repair systems would prove very useful to the Imperial Navy.

Of course, one must test the reliability of Borg Nanotech to repair SW-based stuff, especially "repairing a Star Destroyer in mere minutes", before publishing such bold advertising. Otherwise be ready to face legal charges from angry admirals....

3. Borg Assimilation Technology: Need to seal a wound, but no Bacta Tanks in sight? Need an army of Super-Soldiers with exoskeletons? Pump some nanites into your body, and you'll be right as rain.

Sorry I'm currently too lazy to search the database now, but anyone could recall whether Borg assimilation nanites can heal the wound of someone not part of Borg collective? Or without side-effect transforming them into Borg?

4. Transporters: The people of the Empire may or may not have a religious aversion to Transporters, if they don't, shuttles are obsolete, if they do, it will be enormously useful to shipping companies and the like, being able to transport bulk materials to orbiting freighters nearly instantaneously.

I don't think shuttles will be obsolete; they still need them for ceremonial purpose like Emperor's arrival on DS2 in ROTJ. I mean, which one impresses more: walking through the ramp of your shuttle, surrounded by your bodyguards, where your subordinates kneeling before you , or just suddenly appearing out of thin air where everybody got this WTF look on their face?

As for cargo, indeed transporters could help much. Now if some corporation in the Empire could find a way to modify transporter to work accross light-years distance, THAT would be cool....

[Praxis]

Can't recall what "Metaphasic Particles" is all about. Could someone explain?

If the Federation had collected the metaphasic particles from the Ba'ku homeworld they could have doubled lifespans and wiped out disease with the radiation. They didn't, because it would wipe out all life on the planet and Picard thought it would be immoral to move 600 people from their homes.

Star Trek Insurrection.

[Praxis]

As for cargo, indeed transporters could help much. Now if some corporation in the Empire could find a way to modify transporter to work accross light-years distance, THAT would be cool....

No problem. Just wipe out the Dominion and steal THEIR transporter tech. After all, with a little pin-sized device to give a good lock, they transported Kira from DS9 to Terok Nor (Cardassian space) in a second. That's light-years difference, and we all know the Dominion has way better transporter tech.

[Sarevok]

1. Metaphasic Particles: Citizens still unhappy? Rebellion becoming a popular movement? Wiping out all disease and doubling everyone's lifespan will do the trick! National pride will be restored, the pathetic rebellion will be starved for recruits, and all it costs is some primitives!

It is a good idea. But not everyone will be convinced.

2. Borg Nano-repair Technology: The Borg will offer only weak resistance, but their technologies could prove useful: Need to repair your Star Destroyer, but also need to get to a battle in mere minutes? The Borg Nano-Repair systems would prove very useful to the Imperial Navy.

Nanobots might not prove compatible to Imperial starship systems since they are vastly different.

3. Borg Assimilation Technology: Need to seal a wound, but no Bacta Tanks in sight? Need an army of Super-Soldiers with exoskeletons? Pump some nanites into your body, and you'll be right as rain.

Yeah that's a good idea.

4. Transporters: The people of the Empire may or may not have a religious aversion to Transporters, if they don't, shuttles are obsolete, if they do, it will be enormously useful to shipping companies and the like, being able to transport bulk materials to orbit
ing freighters nearly instantaneously.

Yes transporters could revolutionize cargo transport. Imperial people might also agree to use them. I heard transporters might not be a cloning device.

5. Cloaking Technology: Some vessels in Star Trek have both sensors AND full weapons capability while cloaked(The Scimitar, that Klingon vessel from ST6), and phase-cloaking would allow the creation of specialized command vessels with only paltry weapons- Not that they would.

CGT sensors might make that useless. And bio chemical weapons can kill crews of phase cloaked ships.

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

1. Metaphasic Particles: Citizens still unhappy? Rebellion becoming a popular movement? Wiping out all disease and doubling everyone's lifespan will do the trick! National pride will be restored, the pathetic rebellion will be starved for recruits, and all it costs is some primitives!

It is a good idea. But not everyone will be convinced.

2. Borg Nano-repair Technology: The Borg will offer only weak resistance, but their technologies could prove useful: Need to repair your Star Destroyer, but also need to get to a battle in mere minutes? The Borg Nano-Repair systems would prove very useful to the Imperial Navy.

Nanobots might not prove compatible to Imperial starship systems since they are vastly different.

3. Borg Assimilation Technology: Need to seal a wound, but no Bacta Tanks in sight? Need an army of Super-Soldiers with exoskeletons? Pump some nanites into your body, and you'll be right as rain.

Yeah that's a good idea.

4. Transporters: The people of the Empire may or may not have a religious aversion to Transporters, if they don't, shuttles are obsolete, if they do, it will be enormously useful to shipping companies and the like, being able to transport bulk materials to orbit
ing freighters nearly instantaneously.

Yes transporters could revolutionize cargo transport. Imperial people might also agree to use them. I heard transporters might not be a cloning device.

5. Cloaking Technology: Some vessels in Star Trek have both sensors AND full weapons capability while cloaked(The Scimitar, that Klingon vessel from ST6), and phase-cloaking would allow the creation of specialized command vessels with only paltry weapons- Not that they would.

CGT sensors might make that useless. And bio chemical weapons can kill crews of phase cloaked ships.

Metaphasic Particles: Who wouldn't be convinced? The only probably might be engineering it for trillions upon trillions of people.

Nano-Repair Units: The Empire has weapons that can induce supernova, destroy planets from thousands og lightyears away, build artificial planets, and even move planets from one system to another, and they can't tweak some nanites into repairing their ships? Their engineers are better than that.

Cloaks: I guess Ghost Rider's comment about Stygian crystal cloaks holds up(I forgot about them), but Stygian Crystals are incredibly rare and thus enormously expensive, and almost any Joe-ship could be equipped with ST cloaks. And as for the phase-cloaks, that's why I said "Not that they would".

[Darth Lucifer]

4. Actually they have transporters, but moving ship to ship...apparently they use the shuttles to a far better degree.

Never knew that. I think the Empire would make use of transporters after they killed the Feddies, but they would use them for the stormtroopers only, seeing as how AOTC hinted that the soldiers of the Army of the Republic (later the Imperial Army) are clones of Jango Fett.

On the other hand, a HAM radio set on the right frequency could block a transporter, so maybe the Imperials wouldn't steal Federation Transporters after all.

-M

[Praxis]

4. Actually they have transporters, but moving ship to ship...apparently they use the shuttles to a far better degree.

Never knew that. I think the Empire would make use of transporters after they killed the Feddies, but they would use them for the stormtroopers only, seeing as how AOTC hinted that the soldiers of the Army of the Republic (later the Imperial Army) are clones of Jango Fett.

On the other hand, a HAM radio set on the right frequency could block a transporter, so maybe the Imperials wouldn't steal Federation Transporters after all.

-M

I believe the Empire has ways to transport cargo, though I can't remember the source.

I also know they have ways to transfer energy across long distances (see Vector Prime), similar to the defense platforms at Chin'toka except they were being transmitted from a much smaller generator (a freighter) to much tinier targets (fighters moving rapidly rather than fixed-location frigate-sized defense platforms), to give the fighters super-powered shields.

[Praxis]

Metaphasic Particles: Who wouldn't be convinced? The only probably might be engineering it for trillions upon trillions of people.

We don't know that much about Star Wars medical tech. For all we know, they are already past the stage of metaphasic particles. The only character we know of that died from old age is Admiral Ackbar (though I never did figure out how Mon Mothma died, one book she was alive the next they had a ship named after the 'late mon mothma'), and we have no idea the lifespan of aquatic creatures like AA.

Nano-Repair Units: The Empire has weapons that can induce supernova, destroy planets from thousands og lightyears away, build artificial planets, and even move planets from one system to another, and they can't tweak some nanites into repairing their ships? Their engineers are better than that.

It's not quite the same. Borg ships are composed of extremely thin armor plates on the outside, which the nanites can weld back together without too much work. Heck, you can even see INSIDE a Borg cube looking at it! That's not too much work for the nanites to go out there and start welding plates back in place or adding new armor.

Imperial ships have METERS of ultra-dense armor. It's WAY too thick for a nanite to just travel through. And its not arranged in plates like the Borg ships, so I couldn't see a way to repair it.

At best, the nanites could probably repair internally damaged systems (though its not like the Empire has the same exploding bridge panels ).

Cloaks: I guess Ghost Rider's comment about Stygian crystal cloaks holds up(I forgot about them), but Stygian Crystals are incredibly rare and thus enormously expensive, and almost any Joe-ship could be equipped with ST cloaks. And as for the phase-cloaks, that's why I said "Not that they would".

Forget Stygian crystals. What about CGT sensors? They detect even the TINIEST gravitic fluctuations, allowing them to pick up anything that is effected by or generates the SLIGHTEST of gravity. Including Trek ships.

And we know that cloaked Trek ships are affected by gravity. When Geordi and Ro were phase-cloaked, they weren't floating around, they were held down by gravity. When the phase cloaked Romulan was thrown out of the ship, the moment he left the Enterprise's artificial gravity he started floating away. So phase cloaked ships are still affected by gravity. I would assume a cloaked ship is as well, unless you think a cloaked ship could fly into a black hole and survive...

So SW could easily pick up Star Trek cloaks.

[ANGELUS]

Once the Empire has conquered our galxy, they'll have to find a new target, and find it soon. This first target should be obvious: The Mirror Universe. Now, this will be a very odd conquest, since until Empire creates a 10-kilometre long transporter on both sides of the Trekverse, they will only be able to send individual soldiers and small materials or items through to the Mirror-Verse. However, once they have succeeded in capturing the station, they could construct a squadron of TIE Defenders and upgrade the station to become an impenetrable fortress. A massive Transporter would then be constructed to allow the Imperial Navy to pour into the Mirror-Verse, and it would fall just as easily as the Trekverse.

The nest target would probably be S8472, and fluidic space. A single Intrepid wiped out half a dozen of them with its special torpedos, so a Star Destroyer could rape hordes of them.

Yeah, right. They haven't spread beyond their galaxy in tens of thousands of years of civilization and suddenly they frenetically start conquering everything they can find...

[Praxis]

Yeah, right. They haven't spread beyond their galaxy in tens of thousands of years of civilization and suddenly they frenetically start conquering everything they can find...

They haven't spread beyond their galaxy in tens of thousands of years because they COULDN'T. There is a hyperspace barrier at the edge of the galaxy which prevents their ships from leaving. The YV got around it somehow. We're assuming there is some kind of wormhole (or the hyperspace barrier dissapates) to let them attack the Trek galaxy. If Palpatine COULD get to other galaxies, he would.

[Enola Straight]

Hologram Tech-The imaging quality Of ST holos are superior: they look like a real object is actually there, instead of the grainy appearance of a 20 year old TV set.

Universal translator-one commbadge on the lapel takes the place of a prissy droid.

Warp Drive-can operate within a gravity well; probable way of overcoming an enemy's interdictor.

Swiss Army Deflector Dish- 'nuff said.

[Praxis]

Hologram Tech-The imaging quality Of ST holos are superior: they look like a real object is actually there, instead of the grainy appearance of a 20 year old TV set.

Are you so sure about that?

1) The only holo-transmitters we've seen were used on combat ships, or were being communicated from combat ships. Generally, Star Wars people don't outfit luxury items (such as high quality hologram projectors) on military ships. Star Trek does.
2) Most holographic transmissions originate from far away star systems (Emperor to Vader, talking from Coruscant to Hoth- Obi-wan communicating from Kamino to Coruscant- etc, etc)
3) We know Star Wars is CAPABLE of holodecks, since they exist, they just are expensive
4) We know that Star Wars is capable of high quality holograms, since there are belt devices that can project a holographic overlay over the wearer.

Universal translator-one commbadge on the lapel takes the place of a prissy droid.

The universal translator operates using the grammatical structure of a few hundred languages in the Alpha Quadrant. If you get a language that is completely new, it won't work at all. Plus there is no indication that a universal translator can translate 6 million languages.

Warp Drive-can operate within a gravity well; probable way of overcoming an enemy's interdictor.

While it's true that it can operate closer to a planet, we've seen Warp Drive overcome by 'graviton bursts' or even heavy gravity. An Interdictor might do this.

Swiss Army Deflector Dish- 'nuff said.

So you want Wars to completely redesign their ships around a Trek navigational deflector so they can emit whatever kind of particles they want. Kinda silly on a warship, don't you think?

[Darth Lucifer]

...one commbadge on the lapel takes the place of a prissy droid.

I wouldn't mind having a prissy droid as a translator, just as long as she looks like a Hajime Sorayama pleasure model.

-M

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Can't recall what "Metaphasic Particles" is all about. Could someone explain?

If the Federation had collected the metaphasic particles from the Ba'ku homeworld they could have doubled lifespans and wiped out disease with the radiation. They didn't, because it would wipe out all life on the planet and Picard thought it would be immoral to move 600 people from their homes.

Star Trek Insurrection.

Remember that now I'm sure that the Empire (or *any* interested corporation) would have no qualms about driving those folksy-small-town-people out of Ba'ku. Probably more efficient. After all, the good of many outweights the few

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

...one commbadge on the lapel takes the place of a prissy droid.

I wouldn't mind having a prissy droid as a translator, just as long as she looks like a Hajime Sorayama pleasure model.

-M

Not to mention the "sexual-intercourse" feature

[Praxis]

Can't recall what "Metaphasic Particles" is all about. Could someone explain?

If the Federation had collected the metaphasic particles from the Ba'ku homeworld they could have doubled lifespans and wiped out disease with the radiation. They didn't, because it would wipe out all life on the planet and Picard thought it would be immoral to move 600 people from their homes.

Star Trek Insurrection.

Remember that now I'm sure that the Empire (or *any* interested corporation) would have no qualms about driving those folksy-small-town-people out of Ba'ku. Probably more efficient. After all, the good of many outweights the few

Are you kidding? The Empire is a lot more efficient than that. Why waste freighters driving the Ba'ku offworld? Just wipe them out with an orbital turbolaser strike. Or even better, save the energy, just collect the metaphasic particles and let the radiation do the job.

[Kurgan]

Woops, must be too tired, the cloak thing, for some reason I missed that.
; p

A SW Ship could fire while cloaked, it just wouldnt' see if it hit anything or not, right?

Actually any SW ship can fired while Cloaked. Maul's was special and was created differently.

It would just be hellishly expensive to upgrade it anything larger then something the size of a frieghter at best.

For Maul it was damned effective, for an ISD it would be an immense waste, since it would be better spending building more crusiers instead.

Maul's ship was a tiny fighter. What do you mean that it was special? Don't tell me it was some technological leap that was lost.... (what happened to his ship anyway...?).

Praxis:

Wait a minute, what's this crap about a "barrier" around the galaxy? I thought that was only in Star Trek? In AOTC they have visited other galaxies... or is this just outdated NJO bullshit (I haven't read those books)?

If it somehow magically blocked hyperspace, why couldn't they use alternative means of propulsion?