ST vs. SW and Godzilla

Adam Reynolds · Post by **Adam Reynolds** » 2004-12-11 01:00am

I was just watching Godzilla and I was wondering how each side would deal with him. The reasorces are:
ST
one Galaxy class starship
the ground defenses of Naboo as of

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2004-12-11 01:51am

Adamskywalker007 wrote:I was just watching Godzilla and I was wondering how each side would deal with him. The reasorces are:
ST
one Galaxy class starship

They use a tractor beam to return Godzilla to monster island (first they'd try the transporter but Godzilla's too big)

the ground defenses of Naboo as of

As of what? You just kind of trailed off

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2004-12-11 02:07am

How is Godzilla "too big"? How big is Godzilla and why couldn't the transporter be adapted to transport very large objects. We know that the Voth can transport an entire starship. Probably the most a Fed ship has transported is the whales and water in ST:IV, but considering that was using the transporters on a Klingon BOP I'm sure a Galaxy-class can do at least as well.

Why not simply transport chunks of Godzilla into space.

Brian

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2004-12-11 02:08am

Correction meant Fed crew, the BOP is obviously not a Fed ship

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Brian

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2004-12-11 02:08am

Oh and wth does this have to do with star wars versus star trek? Shouldn't this belong in the "other sci-fi" forum?

Brian

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2004-12-11 02:17am

This could be like the thread wherein we compare SW and ST forces when rooting out modern day terrorists.

No, transporters won't work on the G-man since he's so huge, made out of dense shit and is radioactive.

brianeyci · Post by **brianeyci** » 2004-12-11 02:26am

Would the Trek Captain help? Well lets say that the planet is warp-capable. The Trek Captain would definitely help it. If not, depending on the Captain, he might or might not help. If we get an immoral bastard like Archer, no. If we get Sisko, he'll send a couple of photons down right away for Godzilla to swallow. This is assuming that Godzilla is attacking a planet that is like Earth with a population that worships Pokemon. If the planet is actually Earth, it would be protected under the Temporal Prime Directive, and even Sisko obeys that.

I would think the first choice would be to try and establish contact with the Japanese, from now on referred to as Pokemon because they really aren't Japanese if we want the scenario to continue. If the Pokemon like getting killed by Godzilla, or don't want Trek to help, the Captain won't interfere with the affairs of an alien world. If the Pokemon hate getting stomped by Godzilla, then I think the first choice would be phasers. After that, photons. If both fail, then maybe they'll try the creative thing and try and tractor him into space, or maybe even invent a technobabble solution like extend the shields of the Enterprise or bombard Godzilla with some sort of virus (they do it enough in Trek). Of course, the first thing they will try is diplomacy. That won't get far.

Brian

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-12-11 03:24am

Trek: Beam Godzilla's brain into space. Problem solved. Alternatively, use phasers from low orbit.

That is, unless Picard is the captain, in which case he allows Godzilla to rampage and murder people in order to 'find a way to communicate with this innocent creature'.

Wars: Fighter squadron...one torpedo ought to do it.

harbringer · Post by **harbringer** » 2004-12-11 07:35am

Ok ST will probably try to find what motivates the creature maybe drug it and drop it in a cargo bay and fly it somewhere it wont do any harm - due to the writers being bored godzilla wakes up and kills the crew (and if this is a japanese godzilla) flys back to earth.

SW has only ground defenses hmmn bias??? as jedi were on the ground jedi can try putting it back to sleep or kill it with help of a few of the heavy blaster armed speeders

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2004-12-11 08:39am

Trek: beam an implant into G's brain to release a tranquilizer/sedative on cue, or detonate a small quantity of antimatter if necessary.

Wars: training exercise with several AT-ATs.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-12-11 10:37am

I see no reason for ST not to use the tractor beam.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-12-11 10:42am

Howedar wrote:I see no reason for ST not to use the tractor beam.

Tractorbeam yes, transporters no. GOdzilla regenerates so beaming bits of him into space wont work to well....

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-12-11 01:23pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Howedar wrote:I see no reason for ST not to use the tractor beam.
Tractorbeam yes, transporters no. GOdzilla regenerates so beaming bits of him into space wont work to well....

Can he regenerate parts of his brain?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-12-11 02:37pm

Praxis wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Howedar wrote:I see no reason for ST not to use the tractor beam.
Tractorbeam yes, transporters no. GOdzilla regenerates so beaming bits of him into space wont work to well....
Can he regenerate parts of his brain?

Yes.

Mik3y · Post by **Mik3y** » 2004-12-11 03:13pm

i'd have an at-at battle with godzilla. that'd be a cool fight.

but hell, godzilla is a death star itself with it's spicy hot breath.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2004-12-11 03:43pm

TOS Solution: After all weapons prove useless against the beast, Spock mind melds with it, and convinces it to go away or the people to leave it's "babies" alone.

TNG Solution: Picard mutters some nonesense about how the Prime Directive forbids them to interfere, and lets Godzilla destroy everything. But before any of the bridge crew can act, a crazy scientist enacts some technobabble that destroys Godzilla. More pompous handwringing follows.

Alternate: Picard says "Alright Q! We admit that we have a long way to go as a species, blah blah blah" and Q snaps his fingers, and Godzilla disappears.

DS9 Solution: After all weapons prove useless the Prophets make Godzilla disappear.

Alternate: It is discovered that Godzilla likes to eat gold-pressed latinum. The crew convince/threaten Quark and he uses his supply to form a "trail of breadcrumbs" to get Godzilla to leave. They all have a good laugh now that the Ferengi bartender has to scrub toilets to make ends meet.

Voyager Solution: Godzilla destroys everything and Voyager is also destroyed trying to take out Godzilla. Using time travel, Seven of Nine escapes and saves voyager. It turns out the presence of Voyager in orbit of the planet is what caused Godzilla to appear in the first place. For some reason this makes sense to the writers.

Alternate: The crew load a torpedo with nanoprobes and fire it into the Big Guy's mouth. He's defeated!

Alternate 2: The Doctor sings to the creature and it goes away, cured of its bad temper.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2004-12-11 09:21pm

So true, Kurgan, so true.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-12-11 10:04pm

Kurgan wrote:TOS Solution: After all weapons prove useless against the beast, Spock mind melds with it, and convinces it to go away or the people to leave it's "babies" alone.

TNG Solution: Picard mutters some nonesense about how the Prime Directive forbids them to interfere, and lets Godzilla destroy everything. But before any of the bridge crew can act, a crazy scientist enacts some technobabble that destroys Godzilla. More pompous handwringing follows.

Alternate: Picard says "Alright Q! We admit that we have a long way to go as a species, blah blah blah" and Q snaps his fingers, and Godzilla disappears.

DS9 Solution: After all weapons prove useless the Prophets make Godzilla disappear.

Alternate: It is discovered that Godzilla likes to eat gold-pressed latinum. The crew convince/threaten Quark and he uses his supply to form a "trail of breadcrumbs" to get Godzilla to leave. They all have a good laugh now that the Ferengi bartender has to scrub toilets to make ends meet.

Voyager Solution: Godzilla destroys everything and Voyager is also destroyed trying to take out Godzilla. Using time travel, Seven of Nine escapes and saves voyager. It turns out the presence of Voyager in orbit of the planet is what caused Godzilla to appear in the first place. For some reason this makes sense to the writers.

Alternate: The crew load a torpedo with nanoprobes and fire it into the Big Guy's mouth. He's defeated!

Alternate 2: The Doctor sings to the creature and it goes away, cured of its bad temper.

Are you sure you aren't the guy who wrote star trek?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-11 10:41pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Praxis wrote: Can he regenerate parts of his brain?
Yes.

Given a rusty old BOP can transport 400 tons of raw matter, I suspect a GCS could transport enough of Godzilla's brain to kill him in one go. Whether they'd actually use this tactic is another matter. Probably try their phasers and torpedoes first. Given the effectiveness of phasers on organic materials, they might prove fairly effective.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-12-12 02:32am

Robert Walper wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Praxis wrote: Can he regenerate parts of his brain?
Yes.
Given a rusty old BOP can transport 400 tons of raw matter, I suspect a GCS could transport enough of Godzilla's brain to kill him in one go. Whether they'd actually use this tactic is another matter. Probably try their phasers and torpedoes first. Given the effectiveness of phasers on organic materials, they might prove fairly effective.

No... even if you kill him, you dont kill him... He has been DISINtEGRATED before. The original Black and WHite Godzilla. He REGENERATED.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-12-12 02:45am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: Yes.
Given a rusty old BOP can transport 400 tons of raw matter, I suspect a GCS could transport enough of Godzilla's brain to kill him in one go. Whether they'd actually use this tactic is another matter. Probably try their phasers and torpedoes first. Given the effectiveness of phasers on organic materials, they might prove fairly effective.
No... even if you kill him, you dont kill him... He has been DISINtEGRATED before. The original Black and WHite Godzilla. He REGENERATED.

Didn't work that way in the movie. I seem to recall Godzilla getting killed by a few missle-armed fighter jets.

I wonder how a phaser would do. Would it shine and make a pretty special effect and do absolutely nothing, or would it start an NDF chain reaction and completely 'vaporize' (aka, disappear, as we see in Trek) Godzilla's entire body? I'm just imagining a hand phaser vaping Godzilla

of course, if his armor plates are composed of special materials, he'd be completely invulnerable to phasers short of capital ship ones.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-12 07:36am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: Yes.
Given a rusty old BOP can transport 400 tons of raw matter, I suspect a GCS could transport enough of Godzilla's brain to kill him in one go. Whether they'd actually use this tactic is another matter. Probably try their phasers and torpedoes first. Given the effectiveness of phasers on organic materials, they might prove fairly effective.
No... even if you kill him, you dont kill him... He has been DISINtEGRATED before. The original Black and WHite Godzilla. He REGENERATED.

I'm working under the assumption we're talking about the Godzilla from the American version movie.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-12-12 07:41am

Why? That movie should be destroyed.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-12 07:48am

Pcm979 wrote:Why? That movie should be destroyed.

I liked it. Good popcorn flick.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2004-12-12 07:51am

Yeah, well, you like the Borg. No offense, but that invalidates you as a useful measure of taste.

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