deathstar enterprise comparison pic

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-23 06:10pm

anyone know the link for it?

Lord Zentei · Post by **Lord Zentei** » 2005-01-23 06:12pm

Bah, you wouldn't see the enterprise next to the DS anyway.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-01-23 06:14pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:anyone know the link for it?

Its on Dalton's site.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-23 06:30pm

roger that.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2005-01-23 06:36pm

erm, where? Ive been flipping every link and finding confusion.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2005-01-23 07:09pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:erm, where? Ive been flipping every link and finding confusion.

http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/multi ... esizes.gif

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 2005-01-23 07:19pm

I have always know the numbers. I have always know that the DS2 dwarfs everything the Federation has to offer, but up until I saw that image, I had no idea of the scope. The image actually took my breath away.

Please answer me one thing. I love Star Trek. I breath Star Trek, but how can some people look at this and declare that the Empire doesn't stand a chance?

I've...I've got to go stare at that image for a good long while

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2005-01-23 07:20pm

YT300000 wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:erm, where? Ive been flipping every link and finding confusion.
http://www.daltonator.net/fanfics/multi ... esizes.gif

Ha. [Family Guy cop]Look at the lil' borg cube. Aren't you cute. Where's your mommy?[/Family Guy cop]

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2005-01-23 07:36pm

jasonicusuk wrote:I've...I've got to go stare at that image for a good long while

This is exactly why I posted this picture to this site with the title 'A tall glass of perspective' waaaaay back in the early days. Of a year ago.

It drives the point home like a 120mm shell.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-24 01:01am

SirNitram wrote:
jasonicusuk wrote:I've...I've got to go stare at that image for a good long while
This is exactly why I posted this picture to this site with the title 'A tall glass of perspective' waaaaay back in the early days. Of a year ago.

It drives the point home like a 120mm shell.

Now what we need is a picture of the Death Star next to the Dyson sphere.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2005-01-24 07:15am

You mean before the Death Star proceeds to blow it apart with a few shots from the Superlaser?

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2005-01-24 07:39am

OMGROTFLMAO! There was dust on my laptop screen that was fucking bigger than the Enterprise!

Why do trekphiles even debate?

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-01-24 07:57am

The phrase 'bug on the windshield' comes to mind...

Damn.

DaveJB · Post by **DaveJB** » 2005-01-24 09:38am

Assuming I haven't screwed up my sums (read: I probably have), the DS2 has a volume 7.9E7 times bigger than the Borg Cube!

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2005-01-24 09:44am

Robert Walper wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
jasonicusuk wrote:I've...I've got to go stare at that image for a good long while
This is exactly why I posted this picture to this site with the title 'A tall glass of perspective' waaaaay back in the early days. Of a year ago.

It drives the point home like a 120mm shell.
Now what we need is a picture of the Death Star next to the Dyson sphere.

hmm I agree

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-01-24 10:15am

wautd wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
SirNitram wrote: This is exactly why I posted this picture to this site with the title 'A tall glass of perspective' waaaaay back in the early days. Of a year ago.

It drives the point home like a 120mm shell.
Now what we need is a picture of the Death Star next to the Dyson sphere.
hmm I agree

This can't be right - for a 1 mm Death Star, I get a 125 m Dyson Sphere

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-24 10:37am

Bounty wrote: This can't be right - for a 1 mm Death Star, I get a 125 m Dyson Sphere

Well, the Dyson sphere in STTNG "Relics" was approximately 200 million kilometers in diameter. That's 250 thousand times the diameter of the Death Star, which according to my peek at the online unit converter, means the Dyson sphere in your math should actually be 250 meters, double your number.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2005-01-24 10:47am

Well, the Dyson sphere in STTNG "Relics" was approximately 200 million kilometers in diameter.

I used EAS's 100 million kilometer figure - that would probably be radius rather then diameter.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2005-01-24 10:55am

DaveJB wrote:Assuming I haven't screwed up my sums (read: I probably have), the DS2 has a volume 7.9E7 times bigger than the Borg Cube!

And according to my calculations, the Dyson sphere has 1.953 thousand trillion times the volume of the Death Star. In other words, the difference in size between the Death Star and Dyson Sphere is 17.9 million times greater in scale than the size difference between the Death Star and Borg cube. HA!

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-01-24 11:02am

DaveJB wrote:Assuming I haven't screwed up my sums (read: I probably have), the DS2 has a volume 7.9E7 times bigger than the Borg Cube!

Shouldn't be too hard...

800 km diameter = 400 km radius = 4/3*pi*(400)^3 = 64,000,000*pi*4/3 = 85,333,333*pi = approx. 268,083,200 cubic kilometers...

Borg Cube = 3 km x 3 km x 3 km = 9 cubic kilometers...

Woah.

Did I do my math right? (It's early in the morning, I may have screwed up)

If I did it right, then the Death Star is 29,787,022 time greater volume than the Borg Cube! (2.9E7)

Feel free to point out any screwups in my math.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-01-24 11:02am

jasonicusuk wrote:I have always know the numbers. I have always know that the DS2 dwarfs everything the Federation has to offer, but up until I saw that image, I had no idea of the scope. The image actually took my breath away.

Please answer me one thing. I love Star Trek. I breath Star Trek, but how can some people look at this and declare that the Empire doesn't stand a chance?

I've...I've got to go stare at that image for a good long while

The shocking thing is that picture doesn't even show the whole Death Star

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-01-24 11:04am

Robert Walper wrote:
DaveJB wrote:Assuming I haven't screwed up my sums (read: I probably have), the DS2 has a volume 7.9E7 times bigger than the Borg Cube!
And according to my calculations, the Dyson sphere has 1.953 thousand trillion times the volume of the Death Star. In other words, the difference in size between the Death Star and Dyson Sphere is 17.9 million times greater in scale than the size difference between the Death Star and Borg cube. HA!

Except the Dyson Sphere is HOLLOW, and the Death Star is not

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2005-01-24 11:05am

Crap, I want an edit button.

Since the Death Star is hollow, you'll need to find out the thickness to calculate the actual volume. The end result will still be bigger than the DS, but not trillions of times...

JeanLucPicard · Post by **JeanLucPicard** » 2005-01-24 11:12am

holy pistachios!

that scale picture is incredible, I never realized that the Enterprise was that small in comparision to the DS. But something comes to mind (tell me if I should make another thread on this...). If the Enterprise is so small, can't it outmanuvere the DS weapons fire?

DaveJB · Post by **DaveJB** » 2005-01-24 11:26am

Praxis wrote:<snip>

As far as I can tell, you got the volume of the DS2 right (I accidentally used 800KM as the radius instead of the diameter), but the Borg Cube's volume is 27 cubic kilometres, not 9. That gives a total size difference of 9.9E6 times!

Just so that everyone's clear, I'm not claiming that the DS2 has a volume exactly 9.9E6 times bigger than a Borg Cube (it's probably a bit higher, since Borg Cubes have large areas of open space inside). I'm just trying to visualise the sheer size difference between the two.

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