The end all be all Versus Push finally comes to Shove

[Cabwi Desco]

Here is the Last and Worst case scenario in the Trek v. Wars department.

years go by and while the star trek side is thouroughly beaten they still have their supporters and insolent morons to lead them. the star wars side still defends their strength and knowledge of their own universe and yet have enough knowledge of ST to thoroughly pawn the trekkies.

but finally the gauntlet is dropped. a trek convention and a wars convention are set right next to each other at the same time, they adjourn to a cafeteria in the middle, all while munching and eating some trekkie mentions that the Enterprise would crush the Executor in a battle, a warsie cathes wind of this and sends words back that way, a battle of words at first breaks out and then finally its comes around. A full blown fist fight of the 500 most ardent fans of their respective sci-fi's erupts... who is left standing?

this is a no holds barred fight to the last man deathmatch.

[Junghalli]

Assuming neither side has any particular advantage in combat capabilities (such as having a heavyweight wrestler on their side) I see this coming down to who want it more.
I'd give this to the Trekkies. They've been watching the Empire maul the Federation in a thousand nasty ways now, and they've got the burning passion of revenge in their blood. This is their chance to avenge the suffering of the Federation and Trek at the hands of the Empire. The Warsies can't possibly match that kind of burning rage: the war was a walkover for them while the Trekkies were watching their entire galaxy being decimated.
However, if the Warsies all show up in Stormtrooper armor it might offset that slightly.

[Cabwi Desco]

okay here goes.

Trekkies have all the fake phasers and plastic battleths and costumes they want. warsies come in either stormie armor, rebel pilot jumpsuits, or jedi robes they get fake lightsabers and blastsers.

[Darth Wong]

Dalton will crush them all.

[Dalton]

Dalton will crush them all.

Their impudence will be their downfall.

[SirNitram]

Even without the awe-inspiring might of Dalton, the Warsies have it. Sure, Trekkies might be nerdier and more vocal, but have you seen convention Warsies? These guys are amazing; the armour replicas alone blow the mind(Just waiting in line for Regging at Marcon, we saw movie-quality Jango and Boba go by, and the Royal Guard was badass too). This stuff will protect against the crappy fake phasers. And the Royal Guard had that stick thingie, huge range advantage over a Bal'leth.

[Kuja]

When I went up to the RenFest in Canada, one of the weapon shops had a bunch of "exotics" laying on the table. Swords with lightsaber hilts. Real ones. Most were katanas or rapiers, but one was a fucking wicked monster with a barbed blade.

Get a few warsies in wielding those and watch the blood fly.

[18-Till-I-Die]

Only because of my personal bias i say Warsies will take it, Stormies fear not the Klingons and their bal'leths.

[Firefox]

Aren't Trekkies more morbidly obese on average than Warsies? I haven't seen many fat stormtroopers or Darth Vaders, but plenty of rotund redshirts and Vulcans.

[Solauren]

Having been hit with a plastic Battle'h, I have to laugh at there armaments. The thing BROKE

Besides that, Warsie's know tactics.

Grab the hairs! Time to make it ECW rules

[Junghalli]

okay here goes.
Trekkies have all the fake phasers and plastic battleths and costumes they want. warsies come in either stormie armor, rebel pilot jumpsuits, or jedi robes they get fake lightsabers and blastsers.

Then it goes to the Warsies. Fake lightsabers and blasters make much better clubs than fake bat'leths and phasers. The fake stormie armor and pilot's helmets will also protect them from the maddened blows of the Trekkies. The Jedi robes will be a liability though, as they'll have a tendency to trip people up and the enraged blood-mad Trekkies can grab peices of it and pull them down.
The vengeful Trekkies will keep pounding on the Warsies until they're all knocked out, but a couple of guys with fake Stormtrooper armor will be left standing.

[Nick Lancaster]

While I have seen an actual metal (unsharpened) bat'leth, the owner has never taken it to a convention.

Sadly, the stormtrooper armor does not offer practical defense in hand-to-hand situations ... in most cases, it's only ABS. However, my helmet has withstood a double-fisted hammer blow from a drunk Oakland Raiders' fan. (I'll admit it! I'm a stormtrooper!)

Full Klingon armor might be good in a fight, but again, it's going to limit movement.

The major advantage is that we're heavy and difficult to move when armored up. I know at least one Jango Fett whose armor is metal, not plastic, and his pistols are also solid metal. Punch this guy, break your fist ... if he doesn't buffalo you first.

Toy phasers? Useless. Toy E-11 blasters? Equally useless, but perhaps more sturdy. Only advantage is that some SW weapons are, in fact, metal replica firearms.

Lightsabers? Deadly. Even though the Master Replicas sabers are not designed for impact, the Parks Sabers are fairly impact resistant. And the hilts for the guys who go in full Jedi Robes are usually metal. Nice bludgeoning factor. And several of the Jedi types I know actually practice kendo or other martial arts, so there's some knowledge behind the swordplay. (I suspect anyone with the cojones to haul a bat'leth around might have similar expertise.)

[Lord of the Farce]

I think Star Wars will definitely have the advantage when it comes to having fans who have some degree of experience in martial arts. After all, does anybody remember any fan-Klingons or fan-Red Shirts hopping around and sparring like a fan-Jedi/Sith?

Besides, push comes to shove, the brown robes of fan-Jedi/Sith can be quickly taken off then wrapped around one's fist and forearm for a cheap boxing glove/shield.

[wautd]

Not that I'll ever Ever come to such convention, I got connections so i could send some hired goons for help

[Darth Lucifer]

In a fit of desperation, I see a storm of communicators being used as a last resort weapon like ninja stars, until the Trekkies realize that Delta Badges aren't Delta Flyers...they're not aerodynamic. And those lucky pins that actually strike someone may not hit with the pointy part.

[Nick Lancaster]

In a fit of desperation, I see a storm of communicators being used as a last resort weapon like ninja stars, until the Trekkies realize that Delta Badges aren't Delta Flyers...they're not aerodynamic. And those lucky pins that actually strike someone may not hit with the pointy part.

Provided we haven't used the com-badges as targets. The few times I've donned Trek garb for conventions or events, there's always some joker who thumps your chest on the combadge. If you have a sound board behind it, it's not as bad, but if it's just the pins ... ouch.

[Thirdfain]

Whatever the outcome, you can be assured that there will be no women for the victors.

[The Kernel]

By then, Halo will become a franchise rivalling Wars and Trek, and just as the Trekkies and Warsies are battling it out, a hundred Halo fanatics dressed in MJOLINAR armor will bust in and beat the everliving crap out of both sides.

Now excuse me, I have to go clean my keyboard...

[NecronLord]

"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the laughter of women looking at your ruined Stormtrooper outfit?"

[Nick Lancaster]

Well, there are a number of women in trooper armor.

Actually heard at a con:

Convention type, upon bumping into trooper: "Sorry about that, dude."
Trooper (who happened to be female): "I'm not a dude ... dude."

And some of the troopers who are the guys who do the whole mold-making/vacuforming routine have done stuff from Stargate (SG-Command.net) ... and I seem to recall overhearing a couple of guys musing about doing Master Chief.

Which would totally rock.

[Karza]

And some of the troopers who are the guys who do the whole mold-making/vacuforming routine have done stuff from Stargate (SG-Command.net) ... and I seem to recall overhearing a couple of guys musing about doing Master Chief.

Which would totally rock.

Isn't there some shop on the net that sells suits like that? I recall reading of something like that in a Finnish computer game magazine.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Aren't Trekkies more morbidly obese on average than Warsies? I haven't seen many fat stormtroopers or Darth Vaders, but plenty of rotund redshirts and Vulcans.

You need to watch the Triumph the Insult Comig Dog DVD.

[Stravo]

Aren't Trekkies more morbidly obese on average than Warsies? I haven't seen many fat stormtroopers or Darth Vaders, but plenty of rotund redshirts and Vulcans.

You need to watch the Triumph the Insult Comig Dog DVD.

I definately think Warsies on average out weigh Trekkies. But thats fine, like the mighty Phalanx the warsie fat brigade will bowl over the pasty Trekkie lines.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

You know what. I think this will be just like the worldcon where trekkies and warsies have mostly a show rivalry going. When things turn violent, it only takes one rabid trekkie or warsie to make peace with the following words:

Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra.

When all the warsies and trekkies hear this and realize that they get the reference, they'll be too embarassed to fight.
Indeed, they'll quickly apologize, clear their throats and change the subject from trek vs wars to "Did you see that guy in the bulging Cylon costume? He must have weighed 500 pounds!"

[Darth Lucifer]

You know what. I think this will be just like the worldcon where trekkies and warsies have mostly a show rivalry going. When things turn violent, it only takes one rabid trekkie or warsie to make peace with the following words:

Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra. <snip>

To which someone will inevitably reply "Shaka when the walls fell."

Then we'll be right back at it.