Mike Wong assimilated by the Borg...

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2002-12-01 04:36pm

In some incredible and horrible(or perhaps humorous depending on your view :p) fluke, Mike Wong is transported to the Star Trek universe and promply assimilated by the Borg. When this happens, the Borg become aware of a wormhole connecting the Star Trek and Star Wars universes...thanks to the knowledge provided by Mr Wong. The Empire doesn't know of this wormhole, but the Borg do.

So, will Mike Wong's knowledge of the Empire in any way assist the Borg assimilating or destroying the Empire? Will his knowledge make them close the wormhole, take time and build up their forces? How does his knowledge affect their actions?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-01 04:40pm

If weak ass, mealy mouth, peacenik Picard can resist the Borg I say the Borg become Mike Wong's personal bitch slaves.

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-12-01 04:47pm

The borg do the following:

1. Destroy the wormhole (after all, the Empire will find it eventually)
2. Reorganize themselves so that individual drones have initiative.
3. Attack the Federation with more than one cube.
4. Hunt down and destroy Voyager.
5. Learn to integrate technology effectively, instead of in the current inefficient system where everything looks like a collection of spare parts.
6. Get a new ship design. This design will resemble an ISD.
7. Begin doing their own research. This will be directed to replicating SW technology.
8. Conquer the universe.
9. Begin having anal sex on a regular basis.

*Tries to imagine #9, promptly pukes*

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-01 04:47pm

Mike takes over the Borg.Th Borg go through massive upgrade program.Borg procede to Annihallate the Federation in a huge ofensive involving hundreds if not thousands of Borg cubes

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-01 06:23pm

Even if Mike Wong's knowledge of the Empire made its way into the hands of the Borg, it would make no difference. The best it could possibly do is make the Borg realize that they were totally screwed if they tried to combat an Imperial fleet, and would make them avoid conflict.

I find it more likely, however, that Darth Wong's knowledge would make the Borg realize that their existence was illogical, and shut them all down.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2002-12-01 06:26pm

I'm with Master of Ossus on this one: the second the Borg assimilate Mr. Wong, the sudden influx of rational thought will be too much for them and crash the entire hive mind.

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-12-01 10:19pm

Since part of the reason for the Borg's existence is to increase their knowledge and technology, Wong's knowledge would indeed assist them in battling the Empire.

Look, I have no bias here... I like the Empire and the Borg, but if the Empire were to hand all of their technical schematics over you could bet that they (the Borg) would use them and react accordingly. I’m not saying that they Borg would be victorious; I am just saying that they would use them to adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-12-01 10:29pm

That assumes Mike knows how to build SW level weapons. It's one thing to know how something works, but it's another thing to build it.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-01 10:31pm

bozman wrote:Since part of the reason for the Borg's existence is to increase their knowledge and technology, Wong's knowledge would indeed assist them in battling the Empire.

Look, I have no bias here... I like the Empire and the Borg, but if the Empire were to hand all of their technical schematics over you could bet that they (the Borg) would use them and react accordingly. I’m not saying that they Borg would be victorious; I am just saying that they would use them to adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry.

Wong doesn't know how to build SW style weapons, ships, shields, or engines. He only knows WHAT they do, and not HOW they do it. He has admitted to such on numerous occasions (not that it wasn't blatantly obvious). Thus, he could only tell the Borg what the Empire could do, but could not teach them how to dubplicate the feat.

Incidentally, has anyone else noticed that whenever someone claims that they are not biased they invariably follow up that statement immediately with some ridiculously stupid (if, allegedly, unbiased) statement?

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-12-02 02:00am

Master, how old are you? 12? 13? What is with the smartass remarks? I couldn't personally care less what you think my comments are; but fuck, why insult me?

I have seen a few of your comments and it seems like you have a problem with insulting people whenever they ACKNOWLEDGE Star Trek. I am with you when it comes to Voyager, but if you want to insult me, fuck you.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-12-02 02:03am

Pro-Borg: The Borg learn that Imperial turbolasers go over 200GT and modify their ships/weapons accordingly.

Pro-Empire: The Borg do what they usually do and get rolled over by the Empire.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2002-12-02 02:10am

Personally, I suspect Mike Wong has sufficent knowledge to assist the Borg in specific and significant regards, such a learning enemy firepower capabilities, numerical strength, etc. I'm not saying he would make them win, but his knowledge, once gathered, would influence how the Collective would approach their objective of assimilating or destroying the Empire. I believe Mike Wong even possesses significant knowledge about the effectiveness of Storm Trooper armor, indicating he does have insights on small details as well.

I suspect that overall that Mr. Wong would provide a fairly detailed picture of the enemy the Borg have just become aware of. The question I propose is just how much this would help the Borg in their goals. Would they begin a massive buildup campaign? Start small scale, assimilating a few insignificant planets first?(actually, they do that already, ref ST:TNG "The Neutral Zone")...

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-02 02:16am

Given that the Borg have the tactical capabilities of a fruit fly...I mean let's say they did...what would it do with Wong's knowledge aside from it telling them 200GT+ cannons on some very nasty ships that resist over a thousand of them doing broadsides on a single craft...I mean they would have to literally pop and pray the Imps do not consider them such a threat they decide to exterminate them as vermin.

He has the knowledge of what the effects are, but no idea of power system(he knows what is needed...but I mean so could Da Vinci if you told this much is used up by a car...won't inform him of how such a thing is done, but he'll tell how much energy is needed).

Thus they'll have ideas of firepower and speed, but no idea of how any of it is accomplished and worse still...they don't have the tech to do such.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-02 02:28am

It would give the Borg the knowledge that there is this powerful group with some impressive technology.

The Borg would then either avoid them as much as possible or the temptation of so much incredible technology would be too much and they would do their usual routine and get beaten down.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-12-02 03:07am

Oh, I would love to see that. The Borg would assimilate him, only to destroy each other hours later in SW vs. ST debates.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-02 03:58am

Against the Empire? That's just unfair. Giving someone a gun and then sending them against the entire Russian Army circa WWII, as it were.

In any case, we have two realistic possibilities.. One, Mike is assimilated properly and his impressive knowledge augments the Borg database.. But doesn't change their tactics. That is their biggest problem, so nothing new changes.

However, if strong personalities can overcome assimilation, he may very well become a Borg King, or a Locotus type. In such a situation, every species which can't match the Borg's firepower is fucked. Anally, specifically.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-02 05:42am

bozman wrote:Master, how old are you? 12? 13? What is with the smartass remarks? I couldn't personally care less what you think my comments are; but fuck, why insult me?

I have seen a few of your comments and it seems like you have a problem with insulting people whenever they ACKNOWLEDGE Star Trek. I am with you when it comes to Voyager, but if you want to insult me, fuck you.

In case you didn't notice, it was your own *unsupported* claim which invited such "smartass remarks". Why? Let's see.

bozman wrote: Look, I have no bias here... I like the Empire and the Borg, but if the Empire were to hand all of their technical schematics over you could bet that they (the Borg) would use them and react accordingly. I’m not saying that they Borg would be victorious; I am just saying that they would use them to adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry.

Yeah. Right. I have no bias either. So if the US Army were to hand all of their technical schematics to the Roman soldiers, OF COURSE the Romans would use them and react accordingly. I am not saying that the Romans would be victorious; I am just saying that they would use them to adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry... yeah... yeah... such things SURELY will happen... duh... Do I sound stupid? Get the point, now?

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-12-02 06:34am

Hey moron, if you sat the Romans down and explained to them what they were up against, then they would probably make a big effort to stay away from the US Army. But we are not talking about Romans or the US Army. The Romans are not the Borg.

I did not start the insult contest with Master. He decided that it would be fun to point out that he thinks I am stupid. Fuck him.

By the way, I happen to like the Empire much more than I like the Borg. So I guess that my bias would be in favor of the Empire, right?

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-02 07:39am

bozman wrote:Hey moron, if you sat the Romans down and explained to them what they were up against, then they would probably make a big effort to stay away from the US Army.

Precisely. If they decide to "adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry" against an enemy who GREATLY outguns and outclasses them, they will be TOASTED.

bozman wrote: But we are not talking about Romans or the US Army. The Romans are not the Borg.

Oh, how stupid I am. OF COURSE the Borg will "adapt and to make any necessary changes to their weaponry" against the Empire... duh... how can't I even think about it? ::trying hard not to burst into laughter::

Now, PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US how such attempt will save their collective asses from an enemy with 200 GIGATON of firepower? Oh, no. You can't explain that, can you? I see. Yet Another Unsupported Claim. Thank you, drive through.

bozman wrote: I did not start the insult contest with Master. He decided that it would be fun to point out that he thinks I am stupid. Fuck him.

Yes. You merely started a post with "Hey moron" and inserted "Fuck him" in the middle. Makes you feel better, eh?

bozman wrote: By the way, I happen to like the Empire much more than I like the Borg. So I guess that my bias would be in favor of the Empire, right?

No excuse. An unsupported claim is an unsupported claim. Period.

BTW, bozman, I think everyone on the board can see that MoO insulted you because of your unsupported and ridiculous claim. You, on the other hand, merely flames anyone who criticize or disagree with you. So here's an advice: if you keep contribute nothing else beside unsupported claims and flames to anyone disagree with you, you better shut the fuck up.

(sorry, Shadow WarChief. I just borrowed your pic.)

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2002-12-02 07:52am

bozman wrote:Hey moron, if you sat the Romans down and explained to them what they were up against, then they would probably make a big effort to stay away from the US Army. But we are not talking about Romans or the US Army. The Romans are not the Borg.

I did not start the insult contest with Master. He decided that it would be fun to point out that he thinks I am stupid. Fuck him.

By the way, I happen to like the Empire much more than I like the Borg. So I guess that my bias would be in favor of the Empire, right?

Why didn't you just sign up as 'Arrogant Flamer' and be done with it? How the hell do you get along with other human beings without making them want to disect you with blunt carving knives? There have been, to my knowledge, 2 incidents within the past 10 days where you have flamed people for doing nothing wrong at all.

From the Best Starfleet Captains thread:

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Best Starfleet Captain?

JANEWAY

::runs away::

bozman wrote:You had better run away, you moron. You must be one of those "dumbed down" Trekkies that likes Voyager because of its simplistic plots and Jerry Ryan's chest. To even say Janeway is anything more than a complete fuck up, let alone that she is best captain, tells me that you are an idiot.

Get out of here.

and now:

Master of Ossus wrote:Incidentally, has anyone else noticed that whenever someone claims that they are not biased they invariably follow up that statement immediately with some ridiculously stupid (if, allegedly, unbiased) statement?

Wow, MoO made the most caustic remark known to mankind, didn't he?

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-12-02 08:13am

You call me arrogant? That is funny. When I started in here, I merely posted an opinion as to what I would think could happen. Ok, I did not give evidence to support my claim but does that give Master the right to call me stupid? I did not start this one, it started when I didn't post exactly what Master thought that I should say in the way that he wanted it. So then he called me "stupid." I would say that comment marked the beginning of this flame war.

Of course when I retaliated, the rest of the "never talk negatively about Star Wars" gang jumped all over me. Funny shit. Anyone near Sacramento? I would love to settle this.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-02 08:22am

bozman wrote:You call me arrogant? That is funny. When I started in here, I merely posted an opinion as to what I would think could happen. Ok, I did not give evidence to support my claim but does that give Master the right to call me stupid?

You'll look MUCH more intelligent if you actually support your claim instead of making "I have no bias" EXCUSES for an unsupported claim.

bozman wrote: I did not start this one, it started when I didn't post exactly what Master thought that I should say in the way that he wanted it. So then he called me "stupid." I would say that comment marked the beginning of this flame war.

Read again. He attacked YOUR STATEMENT, not your personal. Don't blame us if you have reading comprehension of a rock.

bozman wrote: Of course when I retaliated, the rest of the "never talk negatively about Star Wars" gang jumped all over me. Funny shit. Anyone near Sacramento? I would love to settle this.

Who's talking about Star Wars? We are talking about YOUR ATTITUDE. Dick.

P.S.

bozman wrote: Ok, I did not give evidence to support my claim

CONCESSION ACCEPTED.

bozman · Post by **bozman** » 2002-12-02 08:25am

Hey Kreshna, you never answered my question. Are you near Sacramento? Words don't carry much weight. Let's fucking settle this.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2002-12-02 08:30am

bozman wrote:Hey Kreshna, you never answered my question. Are you near Sacramento? Words don't carry much weight. Let's fucking settle this.

Looks like someone wants to end up as Bubbas new fuck toy. Seriously though, if you intend to threaten physical action against individuals on these boards just because they beat you in a debate, then do everyone a favor and leave. Also, if this is how you act in the real world, then please do humanity a favor and go live in a cave for the rest of your days.

My prediction: This guy is going to end up on The List.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-12-02 08:49am

bozman wrote:Hey Kreshna, you never answered my question. Are you near Sacramento? Words don't carry much weight. Let's fucking settle this.

No, words don't carry much weight. INTELLIGENCE does. Of course, I've noticed that you prefer thumping your chest like the basic primate you are. Pathetic neanderthal.