Most annoying Trek vs Wars arguments.

T-1000 · Post by **T-1000** » 2002-12-05 10:34pm

It seems that all Star Trek vs Star Wars arguments generally tend to follow the same path. Both sides have their own opinions of what would happen, but some are just sooooo stupid, and sooooo repeated that it gets really annoying, and after a while you just can't bear to hear the same argument over and over again.

My least favorite:

"Han Solo said that the Milenium Falcon was using "lightspeed" in ANH. Therefore, the fastest any ship in the SWU can go is only 1x."

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-05 10:36pm

Sensor globes = shield generators. Especially when they use the games as evidence.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-12-05 10:37pm

No lasers.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-12-05 10:37pm

Trekkies extrapolating know abilities to infinity:
Infinite immunity to lasers.
Infinite Borg adaptation and assimilation.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2002-12-05 10:37pm

turbolasers = lasers because it's in the name, and Trek ships are immune to lasers.

Spanky beat me to the "shield generators."

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-12-05 10:38pm

Also, trek turbolasers ARE lasers, despite the evidence to the contrary.

Warp strafing.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-05 10:38pm

Superiority based on external appearence/wow factor, with no numbers for support.

T-1000 · Post by **T-1000** » 2002-12-05 10:41pm

I don't know if you're gonna believe this (you probably are), but I once heard a trekkie suggest that the Federation would be able to use holograms to beat the Empire!

Another actually got so specfic as to state that all federation starbases would be outfited with holographic generators through the station, and the program would be called the "Immortal pissed-off Klingons" simulation.

I almost died laughing when I heard this.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-05 10:42pm

The Laser argument...god knows how many rabid trekkies in real life I've had to ween off that one.

The senosr globe is a close second...especially given how the game reinforce it ad infintum

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-05 10:42pm

Jesus, I think I would have punched them in the face for being so stupid.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-05 10:43pm

Darth Servo wrote:Trekkies extrapolating know abilities to infinity:
Infinite immunity to lasers.
Infinite Borg adaptation and assimilation.

Also popular with the Cult of S8472

T-1000 · Post by **T-1000** » 2002-12-05 10:45pm

T-1000 wrote:I don't know if you're gonna believe this (you probably are), but I once heard a trekkie suggest that the Federation would be able to use holograms to beat the Empire!

Another actually got so specfic as to state that all federation starbases would be outfited with holographic generators through the station, and the program would be called the "Immortal pissed-off Klingons" simulation.

I almost died laughing when I heard this.

It was in this thread: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/sh ... genumber=1

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2002-12-05 10:45pm

Vympel wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Trekkies extrapolating know abilities to infinity:
Infinite immunity to lasers.
Infinite Borg adaptation and assimilation.

Also popular with the Cult of S8472

I take it you're refering to their immune system. At least 8472 demonstrated their weaopns abilities rather than just waxing poetic about them.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-05 10:48pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Vympel wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Trekkies extrapolating know abilities to infinity:
Infinite immunity to lasers.
Infinite Borg adaptation and assimilation.

Also popular with the Cult of S8472
I take it you're refering to their immune system. At least 8472 demonstrated their weaopns abilities rather than just waxing poetic about them.

Also to their ability to open a portal anywhere in the universe

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-12-05 10:54pm

These threads.

T-1000 · Post by **T-1000** » 2002-12-05 10:58pm

Howedar wrote:These threads.

Aww. Someone needs a hug.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-12-05 10:59pm

T-1000 wrote:
T-1000 wrote:I don't know if you're gonna believe this (you probably are), but I once heard a trekkie suggest that the Federation would be able to use holograms to beat the Empire!

Another actually got so specfic as to state that all federation starbases would be outfited with holographic generators through the station, and the program would be called the "Immortal pissed-off Klingons" simulation.

I almost died laughing when I heard this.
It was in this thread: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/sh ... genumber=1

Not really a SW vs. ST but it's my favorite. The rabid Trekkie agrument of "Michael Wong is biased against ST. Just read his site and you'll see what I mean." Makes me just

and wonder how stupid can some people be.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-12-05 11:01pm

anarchistbunny wrote:Accually I think this is dumber.

craft wrote:well althoug i myself am i Star Wars fan and not a trek fan, i must admit that if a federation star ship went up against a star destroyer or any other Star Wars capital ship then the Fede ship would win. All the Federation captain would have to do is use the warp core to powere his phasers and he would have enough energy to completly anihilate entire galaxies!!!!

No i havent been ignoring the awesome power of a Star Destroyer. Based on the LAWS OF PHYSICS, a ship that can travel FASTER than the speed of light, such as a Federation ship, would have an INFINITE amount of energy at its disposal. It therfore doesent matter what kind of power a SD has, one shot from a FED ship and its destroyed, along with the fed ship, and just about every other planet, star, asteroid, and nebula within a light year and maybee even farther than that.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2002-12-05 11:01pm

The worst is usually a tie between:
Borg can adapt to anything perfectly
and
ST ships are immune to lasers.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-12-06 12:15am

They can just transport bombs into the Star Destroyers, etc.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-06 12:18am

Expand that into any number of idiotic tactics involving transporters.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-12-06 12:28am

Trek ships are more advanced because they are smaller

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-06 12:30am

Ender wrote:Trek ships are more advanced because they are smaller

That's a great argument. I simply love taking that one apart. Alas, no one has used it on me for some time.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2002-12-06 12:30am

The idea that the Empire is a bunch of morons, and that the Feds will win because they're supposedly smarter and have better tactics. This relies on a retarded brain bug from the OT that stormtroopers can't shoot for shit (for some reason most people can't comprehend that they LET Luke and the gang escape) and ignores the fact that the Feds are tactical morons. I feel like vomiting everytime a rabid Trekkie refers to "crack Federation commandos" as if they actually exist. Even if we are to make the ridiculous assumption that the Feds have better training and tactics, this ignores the Empire's thousand to one size, speed, industrial, or firepower advantage. No amount of logic will defeat this argument in the minds of Trekkies.

Zaku-chan · Post by **Zaku-chan** » 2002-12-06 12:30am

Section 31 will tear the Empire apart from the inside.