What would the Empire really do with the ST universe?

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2002-12-24 10:23am

Sure, it's painfully obvious that the Star Trek battle fleets would be hopelessly outmatched by the Imperial armada. If the Imperials were able to stabalize a wormhole and maintain control of both ends, what possible interest would drive the Imperials to want to conquer the wilderness that would be the Star Trek galaxy?

Think about it. You control the only door leading into a vast wilderness that you can dominate easily through force. You could test the most outragously diabolical weapon scheme in this new territory without reprecussions in your home galaxy. If you keep security tight, nobody back in your home galaxy would know about it. So with such a huge opportunity for training and testing, why would you send your best men and weapons to conquer the galaxy? Wouldn't you simply want to use it as a big training camp?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-24 10:52am

Resources.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-24 11:00am

Because in the extreme unlikely case the Empire fell, you have an entire galaxy to fall back on.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-12-24 11:23am

Use it as general toilet paper; to wipe there asses with of course.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2002-12-24 11:33am

Imperial Officers are given command of Carrack Cruisers and they go on a killing spree. The Emperor will award the officer with the most kills a command of an Eclipse Star Destroyer so it would be ideal to do it in Borg space. heheh

Cyaround,
Jason

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2002-12-24 11:36am

Resources would be an important factor, and space is always nice to have (lebensraum, anyone?) But the basic question remains. Why would you send your best men to wrestle down an opponent who is already hoplessly outmatched by the technology?

You would send anybody BUT your best troops. I would be sending in green troops fresh out of boot camp. I'd send divisions that need to be refitted and re-equipped. I'd send units that haven't been fully organized for combat yet. I'd send conscripts. I'd send the worst of the worst. Basically, the technology edge is so huge that I afford to send troops of a lesser quality and still get the results I want. I would much rather have my crack troops in my own galaxy fighting forces that are on a much more even technological footing.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-24 12:16pm

Resources. Safe harbour without rebels.
'nuff said

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-12-24 12:44pm

Resourses and safe haven as had been said and a live fire training ground*VEG* just fight enough to keep the Feddies thinking they can win all the while getting your own troops valuable combat training

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2002-12-24 12:49pm

Make an example of the imperial might of the Empire.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-24 01:03pm

irishmick79 wrote:Resources would be an important factor, and space is always nice to have (lebensraum, anyone?) But the basic question remains. Why would you send your best men to wrestle down an opponent who is already hoplessly outmatched by the technology?

You would send anybody BUT your best troops. I would be sending in green troops fresh out of boot camp. I'd send divisions that need to be refitted and re-equipped. I'd send units that haven't been fully organized for combat yet. I'd send conscripts. I'd send the worst of the worst. Basically, the technology edge is so huge that I afford to send troops of a lesser quality and still get the results I want. I would much rather have my crack troops in my own galaxy fighting forces that are on a much more even technological footing.

Read my current fanfic. One rather weak Dark Jedi. A mission to conquer and enslave the locals.

The Fleet
One Vengance class heavy cruiser
five shockwave class heavy cruisers
twenty imperator two class star destroyers
fifeteen imperator one's,
fifty victory two class star destorers
twenty-five victory ones
40 dreadnaughts

And then use the masses of slave labour to build new death stars uber ships of doom and assorted other nasties.

Morning Star · Post by **Morning Star** » 2002-12-24 01:48pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:Resources. Safe harbour without rebels.
'nuff said

But even when they conquered the ST galaxy wouldn't they rebel eventually, hopeless though it might be? Then you'd have to galaxies rebelling...just a thought.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-24 02:24pm

Morning Star wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:Resources. Safe harbour without rebels.
'nuff said
But even when they conquered the ST galaxy wouldn't they rebel eventually, hopeless though it might be? Then you'd have to galaxies rebelling...just a thought.

Proper consolidation, ie mixing them with loyal Imperial citizens should prevent that.
Alternatively, kill all sentient life on planets with minor bombardment and make the whole galaxy a giant strip-mining colony.

And then use the masses of slave labour to build new death stars uber ships of doom and assorted other nasties.

Hmm... slave labour seems to be largely obsolete in the SW galaxy since droids can do it both cheaper and faster. However when a small force is more or less stranded in the ST galaxy it may very well be an option.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-12-24 05:02pm

Hm my guess is that they might not wipe them all out immediately, probably they would toy with them and their technobabble a lot, shooting a fleet or two once in a while and using backwater worlds for Superlaser target practice...

Maybe establish communication with Earth and the other homeworlds and pretend to get involved in their politics, just for laughs. Create wars between them, steal klingon ships and attack Romulan outposts, for instance.

Of course I believe they could just destroy them easily, but if I was the Emperor or whatever current ruler of the empire is, I'd use the ST galaxy as a giant sandbox/ant farm.

Imperial Officer Miller · Post by **Imperial Officer Miller** » 2002-12-24 05:36pm

Build a new, undefeatable deathstar, use the populations for experiments, and then use the planets for their natural resources

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2002-12-24 06:22pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Hm my guess is that they might not wipe them all out immediately, probably they would toy with them and their technobabble a lot, shooting a fleet or two once in a while and using backwater worlds for Superlaser target practice...

Maybe establish communication with Earth and the other homeworlds and pretend to get involved in their politics, just for laughs. Create wars between them, steal klingon ships and attack Romulan outposts, for instance.

Of course I believe they could just destroy them easily, but if I was the Emperor or whatever current ruler of the empire is, I'd use the ST galaxy as a giant sandbox/ant farm.

I like it! Start a general war in the ST galaxy for some fun.

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2002-12-24 07:28pm

What would the United States want with the Phillippines in the 19th century? Need we ask why any expansionist power would want to expand, regardless of the intrinsic merits of its targets?

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-12-25 01:29am

Typhonis 1 wrote:Resourses and safe haven as had been said and a live fire training ground*VEG* just fight enough to keep the Feddies thinking they can win all the while getting your own troops valuable combat training

Indeed. But the incompetence of most ST forces would make this free training questionable at best.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-12-26 01:26am

Why not go in, take over, and indoctrinate everyone to be happy Imperial citizens? Hell, develop the Milky Way, that's a whole 'nother galaxy of economic growth waiting to happen!

Spin some good PR, play the cards right, and I bet you could have Imperial citizens even more loyal than the ones back home... people who never knew of an Old Republic, who've never known the oppressive nature of the Empire... people who have only seen heard and known good things about their buddy Palpatine.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-26 12:42pm

If i were a power in the Empire i'd use the ST galaxy for resource, training and punishment purposes/

1) Resources if self explanatory

2) Send all Accademy to the A-Q to get them some experience of the front line 1st hand without the danger of actually dying.

3) Any officers fuck up they get sent there for a term decreed by an military court. They would get time of the sentance for high kill ratio etc.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-12-26 01:17pm

Every time I see this thread the answer I think off involves a picture of Beavis doing his dance

You know, the part where he pantomimes doing a chick from behind and slapping her ass. I picture the Empire doing that to the Federation

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-12-26 04:55pm

Actually I think I meant Butthead doing his dance.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-12-26 05:50pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:
Typhonis 1 wrote:Resourses and safe haven as had been said and a live fire training ground*VEG* just fight enough to keep the Feddies thinking they can win all the while getting your own troops valuable combat training
Indeed. But the incompetence of most ST forces would make this free training questionable at best.

I was thinking more along the lines of recreation and stress relief...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-28 05:32pm

It would, of course, strip the thing for resources and space. The technology is worthless, but the territory is extremely valuable.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-12-28 05:42pm

They'd probably toss Rebel prisoners there, to be crew members on one of their starships. And as soon as there parrol officer shows up to see how their doing, they see a man who has been driven mad by technobabble.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2002-12-28 06:22pm

Master of Ossus wrote:It would, of course, strip the thing for resources and space. The technology is worthless, but the territory is extremely valuable.

Not neccessarily. The borg ressurecting nanoprobes, transporters, replicators, and holodecks would be useful. Warp also makes a good tactical drive.