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Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2002-12-24 11:51am

i've listed my favorite trek and wars movies in order by their degree of 'kickass-ness' which do you like best?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-12-24 01:54pm

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-24 10:46pm

Wrath of Kahn hands down.

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2002-12-24 11:07pm

Empire was clearly the best.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2002-12-24 11:40pm

Tough call between Wrath of Khan and the Empire Strikes Back, but I have to go with ESB.

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2002-12-24 11:57pm

Undiscovered Country, the way Star Trek was meant to be.

Captain Kruger · Post by **Captain Kruger** » 2002-12-25 01:02am

Best SW = Empire Strikes Back
Best ST = Undiscovered Country (the end of an era, *sob*)

Both outstanding films. I can see them both 50 times and be ready to watch them again one day. Between the two, I have to give a slight edge to Empire.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2002-12-25 11:20am

ESB anything more to say??

Cyaround,
Jason

Laughing Mechanicus · Post by **Laughing Mechanicus** » 2002-12-25 11:38am

ESB, it was "Star Wars: Not For Kids".

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-25 11:40am

ESB- like Aaron said, SW not for kids. Gives me oodles of hope about Episode III, actually.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-25 11:53am

ESB. The Star Wars movie of the Empire.
Hopefully EIII will be like it.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-25 05:22pm

Captain Kruger wrote: Best ST = Undiscovered Country (the end of an era, *sob*)

The end of all good Trek. Damn, they just can't make 'em like they used to.

I'd have to say my personal order would be

The Empire Strikes Back

A New Hope

Return of the Jedi

The Undiscovered Country

Attack of the Clones (as long as it's the IMAX cut)

The Wrath of Kahn

Attack of the Clones (regular cut)

The Phantom Menace

The Voyage Home

All the rest of the Trek movies

The TNG big screen episodes (aka the TNG movies)

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-25 10:02pm

I want to understand one thing. Why do you guys like ESB so much? (not dissing you for it..I'm just curious, thats all.) Don't get me wrong, I liked ESB too, but IMO it wasn't near as good as ROTJ and ST:TWOK. Was it the scene with Chewie beating the shit out of the Falcon's innards?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-25 10:13pm

For me it was how it handled the characters.

Vader was downright brutal both in the fighting and how he bitchsmacked Solo's blaster skills, but showed a cold calculating, even manipulative side throughout the movie.

Han and Leia's romance was well played out(yeah I know about the ad-libbing)

Yoda was a good departure from Ben and for the most part I saw why he was a teacher.

But for me at that age(9 or so)it was the twist, when I first saw it about Vader claiming to be Luke's father.

Overall I just like the flow and pacing of the movie and at no point felt just bored.

Captain Kruger · Post by **Captain Kruger** » 2002-12-25 10:55pm

Vertigo1 wrote:I want to understand one thing. Why do you guys like ESB so much? (not dissing you for it..I'm just curious, thats all.) Don't get me wrong, I liked ESB too, but IMO it wasn't near as good as ROTJ and ST:TWOK. Was it the scene with Chewie beating the shit out of the Falcon's innards?

I have to echo Ghost Rider's comments above pretty much to the letter. Just a brilliant film from start to finish.

ST6 and ST2 were very worthy to share a podium with ESB, but ROTJ fell way short in my eyes. The 3-way Endor battle was great minus the Ewoks. The Jabba scenes were cool. But aside from that, the dialogue was worse than anything I've heard in the prequels and the acting was pretty cheesy from most parties.

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