New Photo and Perspective on Iraq Prison Abuse

[The Kernel]

CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Journalist Seymour Hersh wrote a new article in The New Yorker magazine this week that includes a photograph that shows American guards apparently setting dogs on a naked prisoner at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison.

It is the second consecutive week that Hersh has written in the magazine about abuses by U.S. soldiers at the prison in Iraq.

Such revelations, along with the publication of graphic photographs from the prison, have put Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other Pentagon officials under pressure to explain how the abuse happened.

In his latest article, Hersh writes that Abu Ghraib's problems stemmed from a Defense Department thick with patterns of secrecy, disdain for the Geneva Conventions and indifference to the possibility that plans could be wrong.

"It's not because it's a cover. It's because they don't listen to what they don't want to hear," Hersh told CNN.

In an interview Sunday on CNN's "Late Edition," Hersh said he learned that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the American commander in Iraq, put U.S. prisons under the command of military intelligence in November and changed procedures that allowed military police to participate in interrogations.

Hersh said he believed the pressure was on last fall to end a steadily rising insurgency -- and that military intelligence officers being pressured from above passed it on to military police guarding detention facilities.

A recommendation from Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller -- then commander of the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and now in charge of all U.S. detention centers in Iraq -- made that concept easier to put into play, Hersh writes.

Miller's recommendation suggested a more active role for military police in interrogation procedures, prompting Sanchez to give military intelligence command over the facilities, Hersh reports in his article.

Military intelligence, in turn, pushed MPs to "loosen up" their prisoners, Hersh told CNN.

"The evidence suggests that cameras were part of the interrogation process," said Hersh, who won the Pulitzer Prize for his article on the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War.

"One of the ways you could get more leverage was shame, humiliation, to threaten to show these photos to neighbors, others."
New photo

Hersh's latest article -- "Chain of Command" -- includes a new photograph that shows American guards apparently setting dogs on a naked prisoner.

The photo was one of about 20 pictures in a series Hersh says were taken by a soldier in the one of the MP units at the prison.

"[The prisoner's] hands are clasped behind his neck and he is leaning against the door to a cell, contorted with terror, as the dogs bark a few feet away," Hersh writes.

"In another, taken a few minutes later, the Iraqi is lying on the ground, writhing in pain, with a soldier sitting on top of him, knee pressed to his back. Blood is streaming from the inmate's leg."

In his article, Hersh says commanders did nothing about allegations of abuse from the International Committee of the Red Cross until a military policeman turned over a computer disk containing graphic images of prisoners forced to simulate homosexual acts while American soldiers watched, Hersh writes.

Although the military put out a news release in January announcing an investigation into the allegations, Rumsfeld told Congress last week he did not see the full set of images until the night before his testimony Friday.

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified that he did not see the photographs until late in the game.

But, Hersh writes, "he knew enough about the abuses" to talk CBS's "60 Minutes II" into delaying a report on the abuses that included the photographs. The CBS report, broadcast April 28, was the public's first view of the images.
Afghanistan connection suggested

In his article, Hersh quotes a Pentagon official who said Rumsfeld's indifference was typical of those at the top.

"They always want to delay the release of bad news in the hope that something good will break," the official said, according to Hersh.

Army Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who compiled a scathing report on the mistreatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, suggested a link between interrogation techniques used in Afghanistan and those used at Abu Ghraib.

Late last year, Sanchez had Maj. Gen. Donald Ryder, the Army provost marshal, look at prisons in Afghanistan.

Taguba, citing Ryder's still-classified report, revealed what Hersh calls a "dehumanizing interrogation process" that was not random at all and apparently began in Afghanistan after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Hersh writes that since September 11, "President Bush and his top aides have seen themselves as engaged in a war against terrorism in which the old rules did not apply."

In his article, Hersh says that culture extended to the treatment of prisoners. In a news conference in February 2002, Rumsfeld called complaints about how the United States treats its prisoners nothing more than "isolated pockets of international hyperventilation."

The recent investigations, Hersh writes, including inquiries into 25 suspicious deaths, concern the role played by civilian as well as military intelligence.

Hersh told CNN that the photographs have burned uncomfortable and lasting images into the minds of Iraqis already ill at ease with U.S. presence in their country.

"The Arab world, it's not just disliking us," he said. "They think we're perverse. It shows how America is off the wall, no longer to be trusted."

Click the link and get a gander at one of the new pictures...it's pretty sickening.

[Chris OFarrell]

I truely don't get it...

The US was well aware of just WHAT that prison stood for to the Iraqi people. How despised it was, how feared for what horrors went on inside.

Yet instead of doing what any logical person would do, evacuate the prisoners from there (who are not regular prisoners but enemies of Saddam) and in a nation wide TV showing get Enginering teams to blow it sky high with about a ton of C4...

THEY KEEP USING IT FOR TORTURE!

What the hell kind of message do you think that is going to send to the people of Iraq? Hell, since the news has come out we have seen just what they think of that....

[Ubiquitous]

This just keeps getting worse for the Americans. I just hope that these pictures are real old and all this shit has been stamped out. It's sickening,

[Admiral Valdemar]

Jesus, this is one big clusterfuck. Someone needs to get their shit together there because routine interrogation or not, the US military is looking a bunch of idiots from here.

PR is taking one hell of a beating with this.

[Aaron]

This shit just proves to the Arab world that the US is no better than their own dictators, willing to use whatever methods necassary to get what they want. And the indifference displayed by the US leadership is confirming this.

[Durandal]

What were they hoping to extract from these prisoners, exactly? They've been rotting there since Saddam, for fuck's sake. What useful information do they have?

[Frank Hipper]

I think the mind numbing stupidity of those involved is nicely demonstrated by the fact that photos were taken in the first place!

How many "stupid criminal" themed articles and TV shows have we all seen where the criminals photograph/videotape themselves in the act?

[Uraniun235]

Anyone else see the testimony on Friday? Anyone else hear that one senator's remark that articles of impeachment are being drawn up for Rumsfeld?

[Aaron]

Anyone else see the testimony on Friday? Anyone else hear that one senator's remark that articles of impeachment are being drawn up for Rumsfeld?

Can they impeach him? I thought you could only impeach the President of the USA.

[Uraniun235]

I'm pretty sure you can impeach just about any government official, although not all officials are tried before the Senate.

[Lord Poe]

I think the mind numbing stupidity of those involved is nicely demonstrated by the fact that photos were taken in the first place!

How many "stupid criminal" themed articles and TV shows have we all seen where the criminals photograph/videotape themselves in the act?

That's quite telling, isn't it? Only stupid criminals photograph and videotape their crimes. And the current rank and file are against the reinstatement of the draft, because they don't want to serve with people that aren't TRULY Army?

And BTW, folks. Let's not use the umbrella term "The Americans" for all this. It was a select few pieces of shit on the night shift. One of the Iraqi prisoners who was in those pictures doesn't blame America, or even the day shift at that prison (L.A. Times interview)

[GySgt. Hartman]

How many "stupid criminal" themed articles and TV shows have we all seen where the criminals photograph/videotape themselves in the act?

The soldiers didn't think of themselves as criminals, they thought they were doing the right thing.

[Currald]

Anyone else see the testimony on Friday? Anyone else hear that one senator's remark that articles of impeachment are being drawn up for Rumsfeld?

Can they impeach him? I thought you could only impeach the President of the USA.

Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

I'm pretty sure you can impeach just about any government official, although not all officials are tried before the Senate.

Article I, Section 3, Clause 6:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.