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Interesting article on Intifada

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This was in the news today and I found it interesting. I realize I might be violating the Isreal/Palestine moritorium, but I just wanted to share it. Thoughts?


http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20 ... 054532.asp
The end of Intifada

By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

While no one was looking, something historic has happened in the Middle East. The Palestinian Intifada is over, and the Palestinians have lost.
For Israel, the victory is bitter. Four years of terrorism have killed 1,000 Israelis and maimed thousands of others. But Israel has won strategically. The intent of the Intifada was to demoralize Israel, destroy its economy, bring it to its knees and thus force it to withdraw and surrender to Palestinian demands. That did not happen. Israel's economy was certainly wounded, but it is growing again. Tourism had dwindled to almost nothing at the height of the Intifada, but tourists are returning. And the Israelis were never demoralized. They kept living their lives, the young people in particular returning to cafes and discos and buses just hours after a horrific bombing. Israelis turned out to be a lot tougher and braver than the Palestinians had imagined.

The end of the Intifada does not mean the end of terrorism. There was terrorism before the Intifada and there will be terrorism to come. What has happened, however, is an end to systematic, regular, debilitating, unstoppable terror - terror as a reliable weapon. At the height of the Intifada, there were nine suicide attacks in Israel killing 85 Israelis in just one month (March 2002). In the last three months, there have been none.

The overall level of violence has been reduced by more than 70 percent. How did Israel do it? By ignoring its critics and launching a two-pronged campaign of self-defense.

First, Israel targeted terrorist leaders - attacks so hypocritically denounced by Westerners who, at the same time, cheer the hunt for, and demand the head of, Osama bin Laden. The top echelon of Hamas and other terror groups has been either arrested, killed or driven underground. The others are now so afraid of Israeli precision and intelligence - the last Hamas operative to be killed by missile was riding a motorcycle - that they are forced to devote much of their time and energy to self-protection and concealment.

Second, the fence. Only about a quarter of the separation fence has been built, but its effect is unmistakable. The northern part is already complete, and attacks into northern Israel have dwindled to almost nothing.

This success does not just save innocent lives. It changes the strategic equation of the whole conflict.

Yasser Arafat started the Intifada in September 2000, just weeks after he had rejected Israel's offer of withdrawal, settlement evacuation, sharing of Jerusalem and establishment of a Palestinian state. Arafat wanted all that, of course, but without having to make peace and recognize a Jewish state. Hence the terror campaign - to force Israel to give it all up unilaterally.

Arafat failed, spectacularly. The violence did not bring Israel to its knees. Instead, it created chaos, lawlessness and economic disaster in the Palestinian areas. The Palestinians know the ruin that Arafat has brought, and they are beginning to protest it. He promised them blood and victory; he delivered only on the blood.

Even more important, they have lost their place at the table. Israel is now defining a new equilibrium that will reign for years to come - the separation fence is unilaterally drawing the line that separates Israelis and Palestinians. The Palestinians were offered the chance to negotiate that frontier at Camp David, and chose war instead. Now they are paying the price.

These new strategic realities are not just creating a new equilibrium, they are creating the first hope for peace since Arafat officially tore up the Oslo accords four years ago. Once Israel has withdrawn from Gaza and has completed the fence, terror as a strategic option will be effectively dead. The only way for the Palestinians to achieve statehood and dignity, and to determine the contours of their own state, will be to negotiate a final peace based on genuine coexistence with a Jewish state.

It could be a year, five years or a generation until the Palestinians come to that realization. The pity is that so many, Arab and Israeli, will have had to die before then.
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Well, Charles Kraphammer is at it again.

I thought Intifada was more of a "Hamas" thing, and was actually directed at not only Israel but the corrupt Palestinian Authority?
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Guardsman Bass wrote:Well, Charles Kraphammer is at it again.
He's actually right....

http://jrep.com/Palaffairs/Article-0.html

Palestinian Affairs: Death of an Intifada
Isabel Kershner

In the West Bank city of Tul Karm, everyone from Yasser Arafat’s governor to the remnants of the Al-Aqsa Brigades says the Palestinian uprising is as good as over

Hani Aweideh looks like he hasn’t quite grown into his new role as a militia leader. Clean-cut with neatly coiffed hair, pressed beige jeans and a matching polo shirt with embroidered trim around the collar, the only thing that distinguishes this 26-year-old from the ordinary young men of Tul Karm is the AK-47 he brings with him when he emerges out of hiding for an afternoon rendezvous in an anonymous downtown store.

Aweideh handles the gun awkwardly, though with obvious reverence, asking for a plastic bag to hide it in for the short hop from the backseat of a car into the store. Not long ago Aweideh and his comrades from the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades -- the armed cells, affiliated with Yasser Arafat’s Fatah movement, that sprung up with the intifada -- would have been swaggering through the streets of this West Bank market town, inspiring admiration in some residents, terrorizing others and plotting what they call "military operations" against nearby Jewish settlements or Israeli cities that lie over the Green Line, the pre-1967 border that skirts Tul Karm to the west.

But the armed men are not walking around here anymore, certainly not in broad daylight. The few of them left after the army’s frequent raids, targeted killings and arrests are said to be feeling hunted and alone. And while predictions of calm times ahead may be premature, many here are already declaring Tul Karm’s intifada over.

"Everybody’s either dead or in prison," says Nidal Jallad, who is hanging around the store shortly before Aweideh makes his entry. "It’s over. We’ve had enough. All we want now is for the prisoners to come home." One of Nidal’s brothers, a Hamas activist, was caught in March 2003 transporting an explosive belt from Nablus in a car with three others, including the would-be suicide bomber. He is now serving a 17-year sentence in Beersheba jail. Another brother, Nidal says, was shot by an Israeli army sniper during a curfew and is just starting to walk again after four operations. Nidal claims his brother was only outside because soldiers had taken him from his house, dropped him off near the hospital, then ordered him to walk home.

Nidal is the cousin of Malik Jallad, known as Jarira, the last commander of the Tul Karm Qata’eb, or Brigades, who was captured four months ago. When Aweideh comes in, he introduces himself as Jarira’s successor, though other local sources say the arrested leader hasn’t been replaced. There’s nobody left of the serious hard core of the Brigades, they say, only the remnants of Jarira’s junior lieutenants such as Aweideh inside the city and "a few thieves" in the two local refugee camps. The mounting tensions between the city and camp militants have turned them more into rivals than brothers-in-arms.

Aweideh, who used to work in a picture framer’s shop, insists that there is still an intifada in Tul Karm. "Only two days ago soldiers opened fire on one of our guys," he notes, adding that 10 days ago there were six more "martyrs" from the Qata’eb in the Nur Shams camp adjacent to the town. But ultimately his protests only serve to confirm what the others are saying. Asked what exactly the Qata’eb want, he replies: "All we want now is to defend ourselves. That’s it. Nobody is giving us any hope or any security."

Residents of Tul Karm are no longer willing to provide refuge for the armed men in their houses, local sources say, for fear of ending up on the army’s demolition list. Furthermore Aweideh, his fingers nervously drumming on the back of his chair, an eye fixed on the door, reveals that it is not only the Israeli actions that are curbing the militants. "The Palestinian Authority used to support us, but we’ve had no funding from them for the past two months," he claims. "They make promises, but nothing ever materializes. The PA wants to calm the situation, but Sharon doesn’t," he concludes.

Hiding has become the armed men’s main preoccupation, since the apparently inexperienced Aweideh attests to "100 per-cent difficulty" in launching attacks. The last local operation took place in early April when a gunman from the Tul Karm refugee camp infiltrated the nearby Avnei Hefetz settlement fatally shooting Ya’acov Zaga, 40, and wounding his teenage daughter. The gunman, 18-year-old Ramzi Arda, was killed by soldiers during the incident, though an accomplice who had driven him there got away.

Tul Karm is known much more as a Fatah bastion than as a stronghold of Hamas, though posters of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and his short-lived successor Abd al-Aziz Rantisi, killed in Israeli strikes in Gaza, are plastered up all over town. Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the Avnei Hefetz attack, saying it was in retaliation for Yassin’s assassination in March.

Aweideh attributes the difficulty in launching attacks to the recently constructed security barrier that now seals Tul Karm off from Israel, as well as the strict checkpoint regime that controls movement between the city and the rest of the West Bank and "the pressure put on us by the PA." He says that the people he deals with in Ramallah "are scared for Arafat" following Prime Minister Sharon’s veiled threats on the Palestinian leader’s life.

About a dozen of Aweideh’s friends have been killed. Asked if he’s afraid, he points a finger upwards, lifts his eyes to the ceiling and says he’d like to join them.

Tul Karm, a city of 90,000 -- or over 130,000 including the two refugee camps -- figures prominently in the annals of the intifada. Israel launched its "targeted killing" of intifada leaders here when army snipers shot down Thabet Thabet in the last days of 2000. Thabet, a dentist and a local Fatah leader who was well known to the Israeli peace camp as a political dialogue partner, had allegedly become a conduit for funding the Qata’eb network. "He was involved in everything," says Aweideh admiringly. Abd al-Bassat Odeh, the Hamas suicide bomber who carried out the Park Hotel Passover attack in Netanyah in March 2002, killing 30, also came from the city. That bombing precipitated Israel’s massive Defensive Shield operation that saw the army reinvade all the Palestinian cities of the West Bank.

The Tul Karm refugee camp produced Sirhan Sirhan, the 19-year-old gunman who killed five Israelis at Kibbutz Metzer in November 2002, including a mother and her two boys, aged four and five. Tul Karm was also the hometown of Raed Karmi, one of the Al-Aqsa Brigades’ most charismatic leaders in the West Bank who was alleged to be responsible for the deaths of at least nine Israelis, including two who were abducted from a Tul Karm café and executed in retaliation for Thabet’s death. Karmi was killed in an explosion widely attributed to Israel in early 2002, an event that brought a tentative three-week cease-fire called by Arafat to an end. (The PA was supposed to have been holding Karmi in custody at the time.)

Izz Al-Din Sharif, Arafat's personal envoy in Tul Karm, has been the governor of the district since the fall of 1996 when the Israelis withdrew under the terms of the Oslo Accords. Together with the surrounding villages, the population of the district is some 245,000. One of the "outsiders" who returned from exile with Arafat, Sharif had helped form Fatah’s Al-Yarmuk force in Syria in the 1970s, and later moved on to PLO headquarters in Tunis where he worked with the legendary Khalil Wazir (Abu Jihad). When he first came here he says he found the place in a dilapidated mess.

"There were no water wells, there were 90 children to a classroom, there was one hospital from Ottoman times and no clinics in the villages, and the market was flooded with rotten canned food past its legal expiry date," he recalls.

A small, lean man with a trim mustache and dancing eyebrows, he describes how things began to transform. Police and security forces were trained and deployed on the streets, a security plan was created for the whole region, committees were formed to deal with education, health and the rotten food, the Japanese started building a new hospital, the United Nations Development Program and the Europeans helped improve the water system and the foreign donor-funded Palestinian Economic Council for Development and Reconstruction started paving the roads.

"Commerce prospered and the city was flourishing," Sharif enthuses, in Arabic. "And we were also fighting terrorism. We started meeting with the Israeli army and solving all the problems at the table. At the weekends, Tul Karm was full of Israeli families who used to come and shop. Here everything is cheaper and better. The Jews would return home with wide smiles on their faces. The years from 1996 until 2000," when the intifada erupted, "were a golden era for us."

Although the intifada started under the premiership of Ehud Barak -- and Thabet, who Sharif describes as "a man of peace" who was "trying to organize the armed men and the illegal weapons" was killed on Barak’s watch -- Sharif blames Sharon for the escalation. Ignoring questions about where all the armed militants suddenly appeared from, he says that Sharon set about destroying all that had been built in order to set the Palestinian state back another 50 years. Now, he says, Tul Karm has become a "social case" with about 60 percent of the population living below the poverty line. "There are 248 martyrs from the Tul Karm area, 25,000 wounded, a third in wheelchairs," he rattles off. "These are the latest figures that have stuck in my mind." Between 18,000-22,000 Palestinians from this district used to go to work in Israel. "Now they are living on charity," Sharif says.

Economically, the city is barely functioning. Everybody owes money to everybody else, judging by what they say. The younger members of the unemployed are going back to school, while 70 percent of the college graduates can’t find a job. The coffee shops are full of bored men who have nowhere else to go. "If you shake them, you’ll find they haven’t got two shekels in their pockets," says a local businessman. Nobody can pay their electricity bills, he adds, and the PA tax collectors don’t even dare come looking.

Nidal Jallad, who says he works with the PA security forces, is also one of 12 partners who opened a garden restaurant near the Tul Karm Town Hall during the good years of the mid-90s. It’s been closed for the past three years and only operates as a mourning venue "to receive condolence calls for martyrs," he says. "Many people still come. We offer them food. They can’t pay but we serve them anyway."

In a sign of the times, a recent headline on the local TV station was not about any Al-Aqsa Brigade action, but the fact that a certain chain of stores was selling ground coffee at 18 shekels a kilo rather than the usual 20.

"There is no intifada in Tul Karm. The army is still arresting people on the pretext that they are planning attacks, but they are liars," the governor rasps.

Some of the blood that has been spilled here in recent years has been the result of internal strife, as the militants take revenge against local Palestinians accused of having helped the Israeli authorities track their colleagues down. During Jarira’s reign, three alleged collaborators from one of the refugee camps were executed outside the city morgue, to save the trouble of having to transport the bodies. And in August 2002, Akhlas Khouli, a mother of seven, was shot dead, followed by her niece. Khouli was accused of having planted the bomb that killed Raed Karmi on behalf of the Israelis, and of passing on information about the whereabouts of another senior Al-Aqsa Brigades member who was assassinated.

"People are so poor, they will agree to collaborate for very little in return," notes a local who says he was present at some of the alleged collaborators’ confessions. Khouli’s niece is said to have agreed to help in return for the promise of a cell phone card -- which she never even received.

More recently, though, militants from the Tul Karm camp are said to have abducted an alleged collaborator, taped his confession, then let him go in return for a ransom of 80,000 shekels ($18,000). The freed man is said to have taken refuge inside Israel.

Now, Governor Sharif suggests that Israel should stay out of Tul Karm and that his forces should be allowed to assume control. Shortly before the interview in his first floor office, an army jeep was seen idling inside Tul Karm, not far from the town center, and locals say the soldiers enter the city every night. A few uniformed PA police are visible on the streets, but they are not armed and they are confined to dealing with civilian matters like traffic and petty crime. In the absence of orders from Sharif’s "close friend" Arafat, nobody expects that they will go after the militants themselves. All Sharif will say on the matter is that "security for Israel can only be achieved at the negotiating table. When we get the right to live, then we’ll give them the right. Israel wants a leadership of spies, of yes-men," he goes on, adding that Arafat "says he’d prefer to die a hundred times than to be a collaborator."

After 15 minutes at the store, Hani Aweideh looks like he wants to be on his way before the army gets wind that he’s out and about. Now that Tul Karm is relatively quiet, I ask him, if Israel were to stop its operations here, would you agree to do the same? "We’ll stop our operations," he says, "but we won’t hand over our weapons. Not to Israel, nor to the PA."

The AK-47 goes back in the plastic bag, and Aweideh speeds off again. Everyone in the store breathes a sigh of relief. Nowadays, around these parts, the novice militia leader seems to be viewed as more of a liability than a hero.

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HOLY SHIT, I JUST NOTICED THIS:[/quote]

"The Palestinian Authority used to support us, but we’ve had no funding from them for the past two months," he claims.


:P From the Horses' mouth, no less
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Look like the pals have run out of resources before Israel run out of will.

Not too surprising when considering how destructive the intifada was to themselves.....
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I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism. Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
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I think the whole damn thing could be solved by relocating all the Israelis to the south, all the Palestinians to the north, and building a huge, thick, heavily defended wall between so neither side can ever see the other again. And thsi wall would be territory under constant occupation by the US military; come within one mile, and you WILL be shot on sight, your organs WILL be harvested, and they WILL be distributed to various hospitals for transplants. No exceptions.

Of course, this will never happen, for various reasons. One being it's too simple to work politically.
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evilcat4000 wrote:I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism. Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
Legitimate!? Is that how you describe someone walking into a crowded cafe or pizzaria and blowing themselves up to take as many innocent civilians with them as possible?

While it is possible to argue Israel's actions as being terrorism, that in no way justifies the murderous methods of the Palestinian terrorist groups, most of whose victims were innocent civilians, many of whom didn't even live in the occupied territories.
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evilcat4000 wrote:I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism. Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
Ahem, that crosses the Moratorium line.
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evilcat4000 wrote:I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism. Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
Palestinian "resistance" is designed to maximize civilian casualties; Israeli counterterror ops are not, even if they might be able to do a better job keeping civilian casualties down.
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evilcat4000 wrote:I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism. Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
PUH-LEAZE... Israel is not the worlds golden boy, the the palestinian resistence IS Terrorism.

Unless walking into nice cafe's whose owners are left-leaning people and killing several people and wounding more is just resistence.

Atleast the Iraqi's don't pretend that its not terrorism.
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evilcat4000 wrote:I like it how legitimate Palestinian resistence to the occupation is described as terrorism.
Oh, please, what percentage of the Palestinian resistance's suicide bombers have targeted military installations?
Israel killing people with tanks and helicopters is ok but when Palestinians retaliate it becomes terrorism.
Israeli retaliation is not okay, dumbass, but the article points out that its methods of eliminating terrorist leaders has been effective.

And it IS terrorism when the purpose behind the attack is to kill and injure civilians. At least the Israelis have a fucking target when they let loose with missiles and such.
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