Whats your pet issue?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-08-06 04:34pm

Conservatism. Specifically, modern religious-regressivist, anti-intellectualist conservatism.

Seriously. There are simply so many things wrong with modern conservatism that it's hard to point out anything that I particularly LIKE about it.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-08-07 02:53am

Darth Wong wrote:Racists. Particularly the "modern enlightened racist" who thinks that every race has a distinct and inseparable "culture" attached to it and that this ethnic cultural balkanization is actually a good thing. Regular racists are easy to bash, but the modern pseudo-enlightened ones have successfuly convinced mainstream society that their particular brand of racism is not racist at all.

Are you referring to, for example, those immigrants who don't wish to adopt the culture of the respective countries they immigrate to?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-08-07 03:01am

Peregrin Toker wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Racists. Particularly the "modern enlightened racist" who thinks that every race has a distinct and inseparable "culture" attached to it and that this ethnic cultural balkanization is actually a good thing. Regular racists are easy to bash, but the modern pseudo-enlightened ones have successfuly convinced mainstream society that their particular brand of racism is not racist at all.
Are you referring to, for instance, those immigrants who don't wish to adopt the culture of the respective countries they immigrate to?

Can a mod please change "for instance" to "for example" or "let's say"?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-08-07 03:08am

Polarization.

I hate it when people adopt extremes (far left/right - authoritarian/libertarian). Their political idealogy becomes their religion.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-08-07 03:11am

Good God I have a list:

Gun Control, or... Get your dirty hands off my rifle.

Two Party System or... I have to pick between who and who?!?

Bush's assualts on freedom or... You want access to my records without a warrent!?!

Space or... You do know that without NASA you couldn't waste all your time on the cell phone or the video game whil munching mircowave pizza?

And it goes on and on and on...

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-08-07 03:13am

Also...(curse you edit button, abonding me in my hour of need!)

People that adopt some values which may be considered left or right wing, then tow the party line when it comes to issues that they should really disagree with. Just because one left leaning approch is good, doesn't mean all left wing approaches are good, and the same for the right.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-07 03:17am

U.S. Civil War.

The other side of the war on drugs.

I mean, if we're going to call it a war, do the thing properly. Burn the cocaine fields! Burn them, I say!

Nuclear energy. (Christ, you get more escaped radioactive material out of a coal plant.)

The tax code. Its a freakin' mess.

Bashing the current governor of Kentucky for not only slashing university budgets for the coming up school year, but actually taking some of last year's higher education budget back.

Drunk driving.

Drunkenness in general.

People who tell me that playing music is easy. Let them blister their fingers on my bass and then tell me that.

Promotion of political centrism. More specifically, my brand of political centrism, that is, agree with one party on one issue and the other party on the next so that you cannot really join either of them.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-08-07 03:32am

Islam I try to dispel misconceptions about it.

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » 2004-08-07 03:41am

Nuclear power, even wrote a letter to one of my senator's trying to get her to change her mind about being against it.

Nuclear waste dump in SA. God Dammit I would rather have the waste stored in the middle of our desert then in our hospitals and universities.

From those two idiots who think the words nuclear/radioactive means you are going to get cancer immediately,

Education, particularly tertiary which is let down as we aren't a pwerful enough voting block.

the Murray, something needs to be done NOW, it is already going to cost a fortune, but if we do nothing, it is going to become impossible to fix.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-08-07 04:12am

The "liberal" media~

Anything else I can stand looking at without wanting to throw a rock at my monitor~

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-08-07 04:59am

I don't know how I could forget the sickest fuckers on the internet.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-07 05:00am

Peregrin Toker wrote:I honestly believe that it might be a good idea to restrict the right to vote. I'm not necessarily advocating a "Starship Troopers"-style government, but democracy's greatest flaw is obviously its assumption that all opinions are equally valid. By prohibiting the dumbest of the dumb from voting, I believe we would be doing a good thing.

I suppose this could count as a "pet issue".

That might be mine too.

That and gay rights.

Post by **Cairber** » 2004-08-07 10:20am

Since I graduated, Ive been spending a lot of time researching child literacy, both here in the states and abroad. I suppose thats a blanket pet issue of "education" but a very specific section of education.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-08-07 10:29am

when i´m really drunk i tend to debate people on the topic max vs cinema even though these people don´t know anything about these programs.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-08-07 12:15pm

Spyder wrote:I don't know how I could forget the sickest fuckers on the internet.

Why the fuck haven't they been shut down, yet? It can't be that it's too hard to figure out where they're located.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-08-07 12:24pm

Master of Ossus wrote:
Spyder wrote:I don't know how I could forget the sickest fuckers on the internet.
Why the fuck haven't they been shut down, yet? It can't be that it's too hard to figure out where they're located.

The First Amendment, I assume. Unless they're actually distributing child porn, they can spout off their disgusting pedophile propaganda as much as they like.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-08-07 07:14pm

Rogue 9 wrote: Bashing the current governor of Kentucky for not only slashing university budgets for the coming up school year, but actually taking some of last year's higher education budget back.

What the FLYING BLEEDING FUCK? How can he even do that? Tell the universities to send money back?

As for pet issues: space. Some help with promoting private space travel, and money with a very firm kick in the ass for NASA and an emergency infusion of lots of new blood. The money will be wasted without that kick, and without the entrenched bureaucratic setup being shaken up by a lot of young people who won't take stupid and downright wrong crap the kick will be forgotten within days.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-07 08:09pm

What the FLYING BLEEDING FUCK? How can he even do that? Tell the universities to send money back?

Yes, it was the first damned thing he did after the election. Took something along the order of $173,000,000 from all the public universities in the state. Our share came to something like $7 million, though I could be off on either one of those numbers.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-08-07 08:27pm

At least Fletcher's opponent won his (Fletcher's) old Congressional seat.
Ben Chandler is a Democrat I could support.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-07 08:42pm

Glocksman wrote:At least Fletcher's opponent won his (Fletcher's) old Congressional seat.
Ben Chandler is a Democrat I could support.

Indeed. I was still registered to vote in Indiana at the time, something that I kick myself for not changing in time for the gubernatorial election. If there was one thing Fletcher could have done to actually mobilize university students to go to the polls in droves come next time he's up for reelection, cutting into the scholarship funds and making the universities raise textbook prices like that was it...

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-08-07 11:13pm

Whenever these topics are brought up, I'm tempted to butt in:

-Issues related to morality (censorship, gay rights, and things like that)

-Urban legends that people believe are true (I don't know how the myth of Fred Rogers being a sniper during the Vietnam War came to be, and why so many people believe it, but they just do)

-Conspiracy theories or outrageous claims that people treat as legitimate

-Nuclear energy

-Evolution

Basically, I argue for stuff that I feel I can easily defend, and have a disturbingly high number of people subscribing to the side I oppose.

Marksist · Post by **Marksist** » 2004-08-08 02:15pm

Any morality laws I will debate people about. Patriot Act, and anything else that takes away Civil Liberties. Also Arts Education.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-08 02:19pm

evilcat4000 wrote:Islam I try to dispel misconceptions about it.

As do I. However, my "Islam is not a religion of peace" campaign hasn't been doing too well.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-08-08 02:23pm

Cairber wrote:Do you have a pet issue that you have researched to the point where you jump at the chance to debate it (even if you just hear the issue comin outta the mouth of some stranger on the street corner). I dont mean something like "the economy," which is more like the class hampster, it belongs to everyone. Its just this issue/issues that drive you to be politically active in that area (for some people who hold abortion in thie category it decides their vote). What are your pet issues?

religion. overpopulation.

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2004-08-08 02:43pm

The bizarre media habit of always calling DC 'Washington.' 'DC' or 'the Capitol' are both easier to say and aren't also the name of an entire fucking state.

Gay marriage. Specifically, why people won't admit that they just don't like gays and instead come up with all manner of bullshit excuses.

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