What they say versus what they mean (First Debate)

[HyperionX]

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What they say / what they mean (debate edition)
Reading between the lines from last week's foreign policy debate

WTS: "The Democrats are re-energized by Kerry's performance."
WTM: "Okay, maybe he's not a taller, richer, less ethnic Dukakis clone. For a while there, we were worried."

WTS: "George Bush's strengths aren't easily articulated. But his message still resonates with the American people."
WTM: "Our butts got kicked so hard, we just hope the bruises fade by the next debate."

WTS: "We're thankful America finally got to see the real John Kerry."
WTM: "We're also thankful the Senator's responses were limited by a two-minute clock."

WTS: "The foreign policy debate was Bush's issue."
WTM: "Oh dear."

WTS: "I don't care who has the better debating skills. I still think George Bush is the more decisive candidate."
WTM: "I would vote for a footstool before a Democrat."

WTS: "I thought the debate was a tie."
WTM: "I was really watching Extreme Makeover."

WTS: "John Kerry definitely appeared more statesman-like."
WTM: "He's taller."

WTS: "Sending mixed messages isn't good for our troops or our allies or for the Iraqi people."
WTM: "Logic complicates things."

WTS: "George Bush has waged the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time."
WTM: "This would be a hell of a lot easier if I knew when I said what in front of whom."

WTS: "I was provided with faulty intelligence."
WTM: "DNA is a bitch."

WTS: "Every one of the President's reasons to go to war have been proven to be fabricated."
WTM: "I can't believe I'm losing to this twit."

WTS: "It's hard work. We're working hard."
WTM: "Are my two minutes up yet?"

WTS: "Our only chance to succeed in Iraq is to build a new coalition."
WTM: "I speak French."

WTS: "The administration at this time has no plans to re-institute the draft."
WTM: "This is a permanent policy that will last right up until after the election."

WTS: "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."
WTM: "And I would do it again in a heartbeat. And not do it again as well."

WTS: "The economy's turned the corner."
WTM: "Then it rolled twelve times, hit a tree and burst into flames."

WTS: "I know what it's like to follow hollow orders for empty aspirations."
WTM: "Bronze Star, Silver Star and three Purple Hearts."

WTS: "Freedom is on the march."
WTM: "Not necessarily marching forward."

WTS: "I made a mistake talking about the war. He made a mistake going to war. Which is worst?"
WTM: "Don't answer that question."

WTS: "The Iraqi people hunger for democracy."
WTM: "As long as it doesn't include heretical covenants like women driving and stuff like that."

WTS: "Bilateral talks are better than multilateral talks."
WTM: "I'm going to blind him with fancy negotiation-speak."

WTS: "I know Saddam had nothing to do with 911. I know that."
WTM: "All those swarthy sand jockeys look the same to Americans."

That sounds about right .

[Darth Raptor]

WTS: "I was provided with faulty intelligence."
WTM: "DNA is a bitch."

WTS: "The economy's turned the corner."
WTM: "Then it rolled twelve times, hit a tree and burst into flames."

These two are absolutely priceless.

[White Cat]

WTS: "Bilateral talks are better than multilateral talks."
WTM: "I'm going to blind him with fancy negotiation-speak."

Which one said this?

[The Kernel]

WTS: "Bilateral talks are better than multilateral talks."
WTM: "I'm going to blind him with fancy negotiation-speak."

Which one said this?

Bush, he seemed to think that Bilateral talks in the NK situation gave the US more leverage since we can more easily control such a situation. Obviously he failed to grasp the purpose behind multilateral talks in the first place.

[RedImperator]

WTS: "Bilateral talks are better than multilateral talks."
WTM: "I'm going to blind him with fancy negotiation-speak."

Which one said this?

Bush, he seemed to think that Bilateral talks in the NK situation gave the US more leverage since we can more easily control such a situation. Obviously he failed to grasp the purpose behind multilateral talks in the first place.

You've got that backwards, dude. Kerry wants bilateral talks, while Bush refuses to talk to North Korea without the Chinese and Russians at the table. It's one of the few issues where Bush is dead right and Kerry is dead wrong.

[The Kernel]

You've got that backwards, dude. Kerry wants bilateral talks, while Bush refuses to talk to North Korea without the Chinese and Russians at the table. It's one of the few issues where Bush is dead right and Kerry is dead wrong.

Excuse me I mispoke, I meant that Bush wants unilateral talks while Kerry wants bilateral/multilateral talks. And actually, I would tend to agree with Kerry on this since neither China, Russia, Japan or South Korea wants NK to have nuclear weapons. I'm not that familiar with the talks but what exactly is the rational behind unilateral talks?

[salm]

You've got that backwards, dude. Kerry wants bilateral talks, while Bush refuses to talk to North Korea without the Chinese and Russians at the table. It's one of the few issues where Bush is dead right and Kerry is dead wrong.

yeah, how exactly does kerry get to that conclusion? it seems so much like a thing bush would support.

[Iceberg]

You've got that backwards, dude. Kerry wants bilateral talks, while Bush refuses to talk to North Korea without the Chinese and Russians at the table. It's one of the few issues where Bush is dead right and Kerry is dead wrong.

yeah, how exactly does kerry get to that conclusion? it seems so much like a thing bush would support.

You realize that everybody BUT the US is having bilateral talks with NK while the multilateral talks are going on, right?