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Did Blackwater sneak silencers into Iraq?

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MSNBC.com wrote:Blackwater sneak silencers into Iraq?
Security firm under investigation for allegedly sidestepping export controls
By Aram Roston
Investigative producer
NBC News
updated 10:56 a.m. CT, Thurs., Nov. 1, 2007
WASHINGTON - Federal agents are investigating allegations that the Blackwater USA security firm illegally exported dozens of firearms sound suppressors — commonly known as silencers — to Iraq and other countries for use by company operatives, sources close to the investigation tell NBC News.

Investigators from various federal agencies, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the State Department and the Commerce Department, are digging into the allegations that the company exported the silencers without getting necessary export approval, according to law enforcement sources, who spoke to NBC News on condition of anonymity. The sources said the investigation is part of a broader examination of potential firearms and export violations.

Coincidentally, the company’s main responsibility in Iraq is protecting officials of the State Department, the agency that regulates exports of arms. The firm had more than $500 million in federal contracts in 2006.

Anne Tyrrell, a Blackwater spokeswoman, refused to comment on any specific allegations of the firearms investigation but said that “of course we would cooperate as we do in any investigation.”

The company has come under intense scrutiny since the Sept. 16 shooting deaths of 17 Iraqi civilians by Blackwater employees in an attack the Iraqi government contends was unjustified. Since then, other instances where company employees appeared to operate outside the law — including an incident in which a Blackwater employee allegedly killed a guard to Iraqi Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi and was removed from the country with the help of the U.S. Embassy — have surfaced

The sources tell NBC News that Blackwater purchased the silencers legally from SWR Manufacturing, formerly of Georgia and now located in Pickens, S.C. SWR manufactures the devices for pistols, rifles and machine guns. The purchases took place over several years, the sources say.

Ex-official confirms Blackwater a customer
A former official at SWR Manufacturing of South Carolina, also speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Blackwater had been a customer. The former SWR official would not say how many suppressors Blackwater purchased, but another source said law-enforcement officials have been told that the number was more than 100.

The former SWR official said he faxed copies of all paperwork relating to Blackwater’s business with SWR to the ATF more than a year ago after federal investigators contacted him. The former official said investigators told him that Blackwater sent the silencers overseas with its employees without getting the necessary export approval.

Maarten Sengers, an expert on arms export compliance in Washington, who is not involved in the investigation, said the criminal penalties for exporting silencers without proper paperwork can be stiff — up to 10 years in prison and fines up to $1 million per count.

While silencers are rare in America because their possession is highly restricted, they are common props in movies and television programs, used by actors playing hit men or members of the special forces. The military uses them for covert action and nighttime tactical assaults where stealth and surprise are required, but experts say it is not clear why Blackwater guards would need them for missions such as personal protection of diplomats.

Details of case slow to emerge
It has been reported that two former Blackwater employees who pleaded guilty to firearms violations earlier this year are cooperating with federal investigators in a firearms investigations, but the specifics of the case, including the details about the silencers, have not previously been disclosed.

Getting permission from the State Department to export such items is extremely difficult. Several sources involved in the investigation said that in the rush to prepare for war and execute federal contracts, private security companies sometimes have overlooked the requirements for their licenses.

Controversy over Blackwater's overseas operations erupted after a major shootout in Iraq on Sept. 16 that left 17 Iraqis dead. The company claimed its guards were fired on first, but witnesses and the Iraqi government say that Blackwater operatives fired without provocation. That incident is now under FBI investigation.

The export investigation is separate from that case. A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of North Carolina, the district where Blackwater is based, refused to comment on the matter.
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The military uses them for covert action and nighttime tactical assaults where stealth and surprise are required, but experts say it is not clear why Blackwater guards would need them for missions such as personal protection of diplomats.
Gee, maybe the fact that you don't need hearing protection with one on your gun, and can therefore hear better might have something to do with it? Especially in enclosed spaces, where you might find bodyguards, no?
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Those experts they hired are clearly retards, the USMC; a totally conventional military organization, uses silences on its MP5s, specifically because of the disorientation to the user caused by the flash and sound indoors and at night. My only question is why Blackwater even had to do this illegally, because if any law was actually stopping them then that law of a load of bullshit. Now if they just skirt around regulations and could have done this legally, but it would have taken more time or paperwork, then that is a problem.
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Well, they didn't explicitly say what they were experts in, did they? :lol:
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How were they exporting the suppressors? According to this article, they were intended for the use of BW employees, not to be sold in Iraq.
While silencers are rare in America because their possession is highly restricted..
I was under the impression that getting a suppressor was about as difficult as getting a FA weapon (just need an FFL?)...ie not very.
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[R_H] wrote:How were they exporting the suppressors? According to this article, they were intended for the use of BW employees, not to be sold in Iraq.
While silencers are rare in America because their possession is highly restricted..
I was under the impression that getting a suppressor was about as difficult as getting a FA weapon (just need an FFL?)...ie not very.
It *is* the same process as getting an FA weapon, and a simple 01 or 03 FFL won't cut it.
To legally purchase a supressor or pre 1986 machinegun (only weapons registered prior to May 86 are transferable to civilians), they first have to be legal in your particular state.

In my case, Indiana law allows me to own them if I follow all applicable Federal statutes.

Greatly simplifying it, you have to get a letter of permission from your local chief law enforcement officer (usually a city police chief or county sheriff), then fill out reams of paperwork, pay a $200 transfer tax, wait several months while the bureaucracy does their thing, and only after they issue you the papers with the tax stamp affixed can you actually take possession of your new NFA weapon.

Contrary to popular belief, legally owning a full auto in the US neither easy nor cheap.
Thanks to the 1986 ban on new manufactured weapons being sold to civilians, the price of transferable ones has gone through the roof.
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