Dubya in 1967: We don't torture.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2007-11-07 10:54am

New York Times, “Branding Rite Laid to Yale University,” Nov. 8, 1967

NEW HAVEN, Nov. 7–A Yale fraternity accused by the student newspaper of burning its initiates with a brand will have its fate decided Friday by student fraternity leaders.

The fraternity, Delta Kappa Epsilon, could face the temporary closure of its house and a $1,000 fine resulting from alleged violations of rules previously passed by the Inter-Fraternity Council, which consists of Yale’s five fraternity presidents.

The charges against Delta Kappa Epsilon were made last Friday in a Yale Daily News article that accused campus fraternities of carrying on “sadistic and obscene” initiation procedures.

The charge that has caused the most controversy on the Yale campus is that Delta Kappa Epsilon applied a “hot branding iron” to the small of the back of its 40 new members in ceremonies two weeks ago. A photograph showing a scab in the shape of the Greek letter Delta, approximately a half inch wide, appeared with the article.

A former president of Delta said that the branding is done with a hot coathanger. But the former president, George Bush, a Yale senior, said that the resulting wound is “only a cigarette burn.”

According to another article, Numbnuts used to amuse himself by shoving firecrackers up the asses of live frogs. Maybe instead of impeachment he could be removed on mental health grounds and committed.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2007-11-07 11:07am

Isn't that Dubya's father?

Anyway, that's fucked up.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2007-11-07 11:11am

I think it's Dubya. I mean, he was already in the Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, so he's certainly old enough to be in a frat initiating people with red-hot cookies.

Gentlemens, the Leader of the Free World!

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2007-11-07 11:13am

It's Numbnuts. Bush Sr left Yale during WW2.

Metatwaddle · Post by **Metatwaddle** » 2007-11-07 11:15am

Jesus, Elfdart, where do you find these things?

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2007-11-07 12:53pm

Elfdart wrote:It's Numbnuts. Bush Sr left Yale during WW2.

You're right, they're meaning former frat president.

As to the OP: it's only a cigarette burn? What the fuck? I've been burned by a cigarette before and "only" isn't a word I'd used to describe it unless one were to say that it "only" pissed me right the hell off.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2007-11-07 04:19pm

Discombobulated wrote:Jesus, Elfdart, where do you find these things?

I read Harpers all the time.

Metatwaddle · Post by **Metatwaddle** » 2007-11-07 05:00pm

Elfdart wrote:
Discombobulated wrote:Jesus, Elfdart, where do you find these things?
I read Harpers all the time.

Oh, I was under the impression that you had somehow dug it up from 1967. I didn't realize it had just been published in Harpers.

TC Pilot · Post by **TC Pilot** » 2007-11-07 05:06pm

Ah, rampant fraternity torturings.

I can't think of anything else going on in 1967 where Americans were torturing people.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-11-07 11:17pm

I guess the Americans should be grateful W wasn't deployed to Vietnam-- God knows the last thing the US needed was yet another scandal involving the torture and mutilation of Vietnamese captives.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-11-07 11:22pm

wondering how long before W. and asshole Cheney, give a medal of freedom to Lt. Caffee for all the hardship he went through over that "Mei Lai Incident"/....