Old redneck shoots burglars...

[brianeyci]

Boo fucking hoo. Go blow yourself. Libertarianism had absolutely nothing to do with the thread until you went on a lameass hijack, so I challenged you to show how it's relevant in the slightest. So far you haven't. Or are you saying your opinions are somehow magically above criticism unless I'm a mod?

Fuck off asshole.

Stas Bush asked why someone would act as he did, go out and shoot a man.

The very next post, I give a motive, valuation of property greater than human life. It's too fucking bad that you can't comprehend that things don't happen in isolation, and that this runs deeper than old grumpy man.

Let me put this in terms you might be able to understand. Not everyone who places enough value on property to kill for it is a libertarian. Unless you're suggesting that every psychopath who decides to break into someone's home or business is a libertarian by default. Using your idiot logic you can interject your stupid rant about libertarians into any thread involving theft or people getting shot over theft, but I suppose that's enough for you to completely justify making that kind of massive sweeping generalization and strawman. Frankly it has about as much logic behind it as Anne Coulter going on one of her anti liberal rants.

I don't particularly care if not everybody who places enough value on property to kill isn't a libertarian. They share the same core value set. Let me put this in words you can understand. There is no set definition of libertarian, no accepted definition other than value property in the highest order. This is the reason behind no true scotsman, so whether you like it or not it is related to the thread.

It's too fucking bad that you ignored my answers to Denryle and Jadeite. You are the third man to say something: you think you are special? You just don't like the idea that I challenge someone. Just like when Mike challenges conservatives to come out of their foxhole when certain things happen, so did I here, and it looks like you don't like the idea of that and hold certain values sacred, proving exactly why I had to bring it up.

Or maybe you're just a dickweed and don't like my annoying style. Style over substance and you fell for it buddy.

[Jaepheth]

9.41 only applies to defense of your own property.

no, it is referenced in 9.3

§ 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY.
A person is justified... if, under the circumstances... the actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42

[Kamakazie Sith]

And by what legal right do you even arrest other citizens?

You can only perform citizens arrests if you witness a felony being committed afaik. The last I checked, home burglary wasn't one.

Requirements for citizen arrest differ from state to state, but I'm sure that burglary, especially of a dwelling, is a felony in every state. Correct me if I'm wrong though...

In Utah, for example, burglary of a dwelling is a 2nd degree felony.

[Aeolus]

If they are NOT present, and are not going to be expected to arrive in time to stop the crime, why should the criminals be allowed to continue without even a threat from someone?

The 911 operator did say to him that the police are underway, right?

What is wrong with even trying a "citizens arrest" by threatening them with the shotgun?

And by what legal right do you even arrest other citizens?

Citizens arrests are completely legal in as far as i know all the US states

[Beowulf]

If they are NOT present, and are not going to be expected to arrive in time to stop the crime, why should the criminals be allowed to continue without even a threat from someone?

The 911 operator did say to him that the police are underway, right?

It can take half an hour or more for police to reach a crime in progress, especially in residential areas. Police aren't legally obligated to stop a crime in progress unless they're already there.

[Death from the Sea]

And this happened in Pasadena, TX not Houston, since the article had wrongly said it was in Houston.

No it didn't.

Horn was home in Pasadena, about 15 miles southeast of Houston, on Nov. 14 when he heard glass breaking, said his attorney, Tom Lambright. He looked out the window and saw 38-year-old Miguel Antonio DeJesus and 30-year-old Diego Ortiz using a crowbar to break out the rest of the glass.

I admit I didn't catch that part, but it did say Houston and listed Houston as the place for the article.

HOUSTON — The cha-chick of a shell entering a shotgun's chamber rattled through the 911 line just before Joe Horn stepped out his front door.

Horn, 61, had phoned police when he saw two men break into his neighbor's suburban Houston home through a window in broad daylight. Now they were getting away with a bag of loot.

Which is misleading.

Quanell X is supposed to making the rounds down here on this one.

[Death from the Sea]

They are preparing to send it to a Grand Jury to see if he should be charged.

[Flagg]

They are preparing to send it to a Grand Jury to see if he should be charged.

I doubt he will. This strikes me as prosecutors going through the motions in order cover their ass. I'm still not all that positive that he actually broke Texas law.

[weemadando]

They are preparing to send it to a Grand Jury to see if he should be charged.

I doubt he will. This strikes me as prosecutors going through the motions in order cover their ass. I'm still not all that positive that he actually broke Texas law.

Which is what really scares me.

He expresses an intent to kill. He goes out of his way to kill.

And this is not murder why?

[Darth Raptor]

Personally, I find the idea that two people can be shot over some goddamned stuff pretty sickening. Almost as sickening as the goobers taking a break from masturbating to The Punisher to defend this walking Texas parody.