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Same-sex couples marrying in California could face prison time in Wisconsin
Posted: July 8, 2008 07:49 PM
MADISON (WKOW) -- Kathy Cox and Kim Whalen of Verona have been together for 20 years. They just celebrated that anniversary back in May. They went out for ice cream, just like they did the day they met. Now the couple is preparing for an even bigger milestone.
"We're going to get married on 08/08/08," Cox says.
They plan on getting married in California. The only state in the U.S. that issues marriage licenses to same sex-couples from out of state. The license is only valid in California, and if you're from Wisconsin, it's illegal.
An obscure law makes it a crime for Wisconsin residents to enter marriage in another state if that marriage is illegal here.
It carries a fine up to $10,000 and nine months in prison.
Julaine Appling, Chief Executive Officer of Wisconsin Family Council, says violators of the law should be charged with fraud.
"You purposely left the state for another state and you get married and you know it's not going to be legal where you reside and you have every intention of returning, that's defrauding the Government," Appling says.
Gay rights advocacy group Fair Wisconsin sent e-mails to 10,000 of their members informing them about the law. They don't believe the law will be enforced.
"The law is from 1915, five years before women could vote," says Fair Wisconsin Executive Director Glenn Carlson.
Fair Wisconsin says majority of their members don't care about the law, saying they would rather be prosecuted then persecuted. That includes Cox and Whalen who say it's well worth the risk.
"Pioneers get the arrows and settlers get the land. We'll take a few arrows," Cox says.
The prosecution of violators would be up to district attorneys and Fair Wisconsin doesn't believe any district court would go after same-sex couples who marry in California.
Dane County District Attorney Brian Blanchard said doing so would be a "poor use of scarce prosecution resources."
Legal group Lambda.org calls Wisconsin's penalties the strictest in the country.
That law is blatantly unconstitutional and a violation of the full faith a credit clause. The only reason it's still on the books is probably because it's never been challenged in court.Flagg wrote:An obscure law makes it a crime for Wisconsin residents to enter marriage in another state if that marriage is illegal here.
It carries a fine up to $10,000 and nine months in prison.
Julaine Appling, Chief Executive Officer of Wisconsin Family Council, says violators of the law should be charged with fraud.
I don't see how ii possibly can be upheld, considering the fact that no fraud is even being perpetrated. Of course the interracial couples this thing was originally targeted at (Why else would there be such a law) likely couldn't get any legal aid to help them which would explain why this legislative abortion is still on the books.Broomstick wrote:That law is blatantly unconstitutional and a violation of the full faith a credit clause. The only reason it's still on the books is probably because it's never been challenged in court.Flagg wrote:An obscure law makes it a crime for Wisconsin residents to enter marriage in another state if that marriage is illegal here.
It carries a fine up to $10,000 and nine months in prison.
Julaine Appling, Chief Executive Officer of Wisconsin Family Council, says violators of the law should be charged with fraud.
There was no article I could find just a link to the CNN homepage. You ever think of that you piece of shit? Or did you just feel like tossing around some insults to make yourself feel tough?Flagg wrote:Post the fucking article next time you goddamned retard.
That might be cited if this is ever brought to court. In the US there are a fair amount of obsolete laws that are largely forgotten and nearly never enforced. On the rare occasions they are, they are almost inevitably quickly struck down.Kitsune wrote:Could be considered already having been struck down by Loving vs Virginia?
Its the latter for most here. That said, your own video shows that it is only a dominionist organization pushing for enforcement of the law, and the article has the DA calling it a waste of time.Invictus ChiKen wrote:There was no article I could find just a link to the CNN homepage. You ever think of that you piece of shit? Or did you just feel like tossing around some insults to make yourself feel tough?Flagg wrote:Post the fucking article next time you goddamned retard.
I found it after less than a minute of looking. Idiot.Invictus ChiKen wrote:There was no article I could find just a link to the CNN homepage. You ever think of that you piece of shit? Or did you just feel like tossing around some insults to make yourself feel tough?Flagg wrote:Post the fucking article next time you goddamned retard.
So calling him a piece of shit is...hypocritical isn't it?Invictus ChiKen wrote:There was no article I could find just a link to the CNN homepage. You ever think of that you piece of shit? Or did you just feel like tossing around some insults to make yourself feel tough?Flagg wrote:Post the fucking article next time you goddamned retard.