Female suicide bomber recruitment in Iraq...

[weemadando]

Warning - if you wish to preserve what remaining shreds of respect for humanity you have - don't read the following.

Iraqi woman had 80 women raped then recruited as suicide bombers

From correspondents in Baghdad

Agence France-Presse

A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.

Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks.

In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.

"We arrested Samira Jassim, known as 'Um al-Mumenin', the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women'', Major General Qassim Atta said.

"She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists' strongholds,'' he said.

Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group.

Two of the attacks for which Samira Jassim admitted responsibility in the video confession took place in Diyala province, in central Iraq, which is considered one of the most dangerous areas of the country.

The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year. Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.

So, this woman arranged to have women raped, then approach them and befriend them and counsel them all the while turning them more and more fanatical until they accept that the only way to recover from the shame is to become a "martyr"? That woman is fucking evil. Evil. I cannot begin to describe how sickening this would be if I didn't expect it from humanity.

[wautd]

Warning - if you wish to preserve what remaining shreds of respect for humanity you have - don't read the following.

Dammit! Too late
Really, you can't make this shit up

I wonder what punishment she'll get

[Zixinus]

No punishment is good enough.

[/internet tough guy]

Probably a life in imprisonment. If we're lucky, the inmates will be told of what this woman did.

[MKSheppard]

Hey ando, you forgot the part where they also gay rape the men too, to turn them into suicide bombers.

[Aratech]

This is... truly a new level of disturbing for me. I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that a woman could do this to other women, but I'm failing miserably.


For anyone more familiar with Islamic Law, under their code, what would be the punishment for this sort of depravity?

[Broomstick]

This is... truly a new level of disturbing for me. I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that a woman could do this to other women, but I'm failing miserably.

One of the sucky things about being an old hag is that this sort of thing no longer surprises me. Saddens me, yes, but does not surprise me.

It's all about controlling other people, via any available means.

[Solauren]

Quite frankly, I'm suprised it took them this long to start doing that.

Suicide bombers are generally people that don't want to live. Given how women are treated under islamic law over rapes and so forth, and the trauma that comes with a rape regardless of that, they're a natural source to tap.

Combine that with the sexual fustration Jihadist must feel, you deal with two issues at once.

Disguisting, brutal, evil. But also frighteningly logical, and even practical.

[CJvR]

Rape for Allah!
The new slogan of the Jihad, nice idea.
You get new suicidal bombers and you can recruit sexually frustrated creeps with the argument that it is all for a good cause. Film it and you can even make some money, and if the victim isn't suicidal enough send the tape to her friends and family and post it on the web - then she probably will be...

[CJvR]

...the fact that a woman could do this to other women, but I'm failing miserably...

Im not that surprised.
A woman would have to be twice as rabid as the other mad dogs in the Jihadist pack to be considered even half as good as a man. When it comes to looking out for #1 there is little humans won't do.

The charming Soviet Gulag system for extra rations spring to mind, work harder you get extra food. Fair, right? Only you burn more calories than you get in extra rations - an idea thought out by an ex-Gulag prisoner!

[Bilbo]

Quite frankly, I'm suprised it took them this long to start doing that.

Suicide bombers are generally people that don't want to live. Given how women are treated under islamic law over rapes and so forth, .

Yeah this is an important item to consider when talking of the "value" of muslim societies. Any society that makes the female rape victim the bad guy, for lack of a better phrase, has some major issues.

[hongi]

For anyone more familiar with Islamic Law, under their code, what would be the punishment for this sort of depravity?

Execution on all counts.

[TheMuffinKing]

For anyone more familiar with Islamic Law, under their code, what would be the punishment for this sort of depravity?

Execution on all counts.

I wonder if they'll have some sort of execution that resembles the crime. Eye for an eye and all that. Honestly I'm hoping she finds herself executed swiftly and professionally, perhaps a beheading, rather than some sort of fatal gangraping that I'm sure some people are considering.

[Ryan Thunder]

Honestly I'm hoping she finds herself executed swiftly and professionally, perhaps a beheading, rather than some sort of fatal gangraping that I'm sure some people are considering.

Why do you hope for it? I'm indifferent, myself. Long as she's offed. I don't particularly care how, or how long it takes.

That's what she gets for being so depraved; indifference to her suffering (if any.)

[Posner]

I wonder if they'll have some sort of execution that resembles the crime. Eye for an eye and all that. Honestly I'm hoping she finds herself executed swiftly and professionally, perhaps a beheading, rather than some sort of fatal gangraping that I'm sure some people are considering.

I agree, revenge should be reserved for action heroes and children, not for the law. I'm not sure what the state execution method in Iraq is, I imagine it would be hanging.

[TheMuffinKing]

Honestly I'm hoping she finds herself executed swiftly and professionally, perhaps a beheading, rather than some sort of fatal gangraping that I'm sure some people are considering.

Why do you hope for it? I'm indifferent, myself. Long as she's offed. I don't particularly care how, or how long it takes.

That's what she gets for being so depraved; indifference to her suffering (if any.)

I hope for a level of restraint only to demonstrate some sort of civic progress on the part of the Iraqi justice system. I suppose using an electric chair, or hanging, or otherwise "civilized" means of execution would in some way impart a greater sense of legitimacy (to the government, courts and people) and perhaps reduce some of the barbarism we've grown so accustomed to witnessing from the region. I could go off on capitol punishment, Iraq, and yadda yadda yadda, but I don't feel it is appropriate for this thread.

I agree witht eh post above too, my internet crapped out mid way through transmission.

[CJvR]

Well why limit such a good idea to just one gender?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 203190.ece

EVIL al-Qaeda chiefs are raping young male converts to shame them into becoming suicide bombers, it emerged yesterday.
The intense social stigma and fear of more gay sex attacks leaves Muslims prepared to die.

The warped new tactic was revealed by a reformed Algerian militant. Abu Baçir El Assimi said: “The sexual act on young recruits aged between 16 to 19 was a means to urge them to commit suicide operations.”

A 22-year-old had suffered sexual injuries before being shot dead on a suicide mission in Tademaït, Algeria, three weeks ago. Samples taken from his body are being analysed in a bid to identify his torturer.

And the US military discovered two years ago that al-Qaeda were dishonouring women in Iraq to turn them into suicide bombers. A terror leader would marry, then let another man rape his wife.

It was also revealed yesterday how a 51-year-old woman militant had recruited more than 80 women as suicide bombers.

Samira Jassim, who calls herself “the mother of believers”, targeted the weak and troubled. Arrested after a tip-off, she admitted orchestrating 28 successful bombings.

Experts believe al-Qaeda’s sick tactics may be a sign of desperation. One said: “Perhaps they are running short of potential martyrs.”

[Solauren]

Further proof sex is just seen as another means of control by religious nut jobs (and to a lesser degree, polititions, but there is enough bleed over it doesn't matter).

This explains the lack of older suicide bombers, quite frankly.

It would also serve as a recruitment tool for homosexual males in Iraq. They're probably already loathing themselves as it is, something a good recruiter can use to their advantage.

i.e "inflict it back on the ones that are doing this to you."

Disgusting, Dispictable, but still logical and practical from the evil perspective.

[CmdrWilkens]

Honestly I'm hoping she finds herself executed swiftly and professionally, perhaps a beheading, rather than some sort of fatal gangraping that I'm sure some people are considering.

Why do you hope for it? I'm indifferent, myself. Long as she's offed. I don't particularly care how, or how long it takes.

That's what she gets for being so depraved; indifference to her suffering (if any.)

Indeed, I've generally thought that while there are abuses of capital punishment it remains a truth that some folks have simply placed themselves beyond the pale of what society can accept. I think organizing the rape and death of even one person would be sufficient for me to assert that the individual no longer belonged within society.

For some deaths there is no malice, there isn't the cold detachment from humanity that I think is requisite for death but this one certainly fits the bills to my thinking.